20th Anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall

classicman · 11-10-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Reagan had nothing to do with it.

Where is the "bites tongue" smilie?

Radar · 11-10-2009, 12:26 PM

I realize some people are too dumb to know that the Soviet Union, like all communism, was already crumbling and falling on its own. Reagan tripling our national debt and spending a trillion dollars on star wars vapor-ware wasn't what made them fall. Reagan just happened to be the guy there when it fell. He tried to take credit for it even though he had nothing to do with it int he same way he tried to take credit for the release of the Iranian hostages which he also had NOTHING to do with.

classicman · 11-10-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

The wall came down during the Bush administration and Reagan had nothing to do with it.

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Originally Posted by Radar

Reagan just happened to be the guy there when it fell.

right back atcha pal

Radar · 11-10-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

right back atcha pal

Bush was there when the wall fell.

Reagan was there when the Soviet Union collapsed.

Neither of them was responsible for either of those things.

Radar

Classicman

TheMercenary · 11-10-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar

...the same way he tried to take credit for the release of the Iranian hostages which he also had NOTHING to do with.

Now that right there is funny. Read 'Guests of the Ayatollah,' by Mark Bowden. I don't think I ever heard that he claimed directly to have had anything to do with the release of the hostages, although there may have been plenty of propaganda about that he in someway was directly involved. But to be clear on the fact this one is clear, on January 20, 1981, Reagan was sworn into office and within minutes all of the hostages were released. I believe, as I think most do, there was indirect pressure. There is no clear evidence either way.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-10-2009, 01:35 PM

I hate to interrupt this pissing match, but I wanted to thank glatt for sharing his impressions of cold war Germany. Thanks glatt.

Radar · 11-10-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I hate to interrupt this pissing match, but I wanted to thank glatt for sharing his impressions of cold war Germany. Thanks glatt.

Yes, that was nice. I haven't been back to Germany since the wall was still there. The last time I went to Germany was 1987. I wish I had gone during the World Cup though and wanted to go to the Love Parade so many times, but never got to.

11-10-2009, 12:26 PM	#2
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	I realize some people are too dumb to know that the Soviet Union, like all communism, was already crumbling and falling on its own. Reagan tripling our national debt and spending a trillion dollars on star wars vapor-ware wasn't what made them fall. Reagan just happened to be the guy there when it fell. He tried to take credit for it even though he had nothing to do with it int he same way he tried to take credit for the release of the Iranian hostages which he also had NOTHING to do with. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

11-10-2009, 01:35 PM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I hate to interrupt this pissing match, but I wanted to thank glatt for sharing his impressions of cold war Germany. Thanks glatt. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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