Who is going to pay for it all?

lookout123 · 11-25-2009, 09:00 AM

I know what you're saying. I'm just saying I don't see government sponsored healthcare as "the right thing". Personal opinion.

Trilby · 11-25-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

I know what you're saying. I'm just saying I don't see government sponsored healthcare as "the right thing". Personal opinion.

fair enough. what would you propose for all these uninsured (or even insured americans) who lose everything due to health care costs? Get cancer=lose your house! this is ok? Have a heartattack=homelessness! THIS is ok? I used to think like you, lookout, then shit happened. if you live long enough shit WILL happen to you - shit BEYOND your control. We don't care about our neighbors in this country. It's stupid.

Griff · 11-25-2009, 10:21 AM

David Brooks addresses this question in a pretty clear way. Security vs vitality are the competing values he talks about and you can see it in the Cellar arguements.

Spexxvet · 11-25-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

David Brooks addresses this question in a pretty clear way. Security vs vitality are the competing values he talks about and you can see it in the Cellar arguements.

I don't think it should come to security OR vitality. The country needs both, IMHO.

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-25-2009, 10:13 PM

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I don't think it should come to security OR vitality. The country needs both, IMHO.

Without vitality, there is zero hope of security. The present Congress and Administration are all-security, no-vitality. This is too myopic to be endured. The Welfare State was proven nonviable in the last century, and this wildeyed pursuit of outworn policies calls not only the Democrats' wisdom into question, but their collective mental hygiene as well.

Way I see it, it proves no one in the senior ranks of the Democratic Party except the Blue Dogs has any wisdom at all.

lookout123 · 11-25-2009, 06:45 PM

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fair enough. what would you propose for all these uninsured (or even insured americans) who lose everything due to health care costs? Get cancer=lose your house! this is ok? Have a heartattack=homelessness! THIS is ok? I used to think like you, lookout, then shit happened. if you live long enough shit WILL happen to you - shit BEYOND your control. We don't care about our neighbors in this country. It's stupid.

Shit does happen. Shit like losing everything so my first son could be born. Shit happens. Hasn't changed my view yet, but give it time.

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11-25-2009, 10:21 AM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	David Brooks addresses this question in a pretty clear way. Security vs vitality are the competing values he talks about and you can see it in the Cellar arguements. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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