Global warming?

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by classicman

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Here we go again. This sounds eerily like what they were saying back in the '70's.

Back in the '70s when a few scientists got headlines claiming an ice age, when the consensus was for warming?

It does sound eerily similar.

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Any comments on what the guy in Bruce's video has to say?

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Back in the '70s when a few scientists got headlines claiming an ice age, when the consensus was for warming?

At the same time, a growing number were quietly noting the trends of global warming. Only trends then since we did not have the facts and numbers we have today.

But then many also hyped a myth about Saddam conspiring to attack the US when it was obvious that Saddam was working to restore his American ally status. Whose declarations got hyped? Those who lied about Saddam's intentions? Who got no respect because hype always trumps logic? Those who noted Saddam's interests were only in restoring his American ally status - they got ignored. No hype in the reality.

There is no doubt about mankind's creation of global warming. The numbers are overwhelming.

Also foolish is this need for lower carbon emmisions and 'green' energy. Classic curing the symptoms. The problem is this: put ten gallons of gasoline in the car. How many do any productive work? Over eight of every ten burned gallons does no productive work. Is completely wasted energy.

Those hyping the need for lower carbon emmission, et al are easily decieved by the Chevy Volt. It's not a solution. A product that actually increases energy consumption. Hyping a solution of symptoms rather than addressing the actual problem.

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They say that their research shows that much of the warming was caused by oceanic cycles when they were in a ‘warm mode’ as opposed to the present ‘cold mode’.

Reality from research so disputed that. That same research was the smoking gun that changed the minds of the last remaining experts on the various environmental systems.

That highly respected expert that advocated and defended the Atlantic Oscillatory Cycle completely abandoned his 'holdout' belief once that ‘smoking gun’data arrived a few years ago. He was one of the few holdouts.

Fundamental is data from deep oceans. The trend is now obvious. Oceans have been absorbing heat in tremendous amounts for decades. Eventually, this warmed water will rise back to the surface (large currents that take many decades to cycle). So the question is not global cooling verses global warming. The question is how much faster will global warming occur once these deep ocean currents become warmer and return to the surface.

No responsible scientist believe that political agenda. That nonsense is why White House lawyers had to rewrite science papers. And why most of those 'global warming deniers' are educated by extremist political organization - not science. Curious – the deniers are also many who foolishly believed Saddam had WMDs when those numbers also suggested otherwise.

Reality - the numbers - global warming is a serious man made problem. We just do not know how serious the problem is. But denying it using Rush Limbaugh techniques is what, for example, we can even read in this thread.