Pat Condell

Originally Posted by classicman

I already answered this - It is to prevent know terrorists from keeping their identities hidden - it has NOTHING to do with concealment of a weapons.

If applied in a sweeping manner, you are including millions who are not know terrorist.

This is in Europe, not the US.

We hear calls from some on the right for similar restrictions in the US.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

If applied in a sweeping manner, you are including millions who are not know terrorist.

That's one big IF

We hear calls from some on the right for similar restrictions in the US.

Ok lets try it this way - My new religion. lets call it bombism, says I must carry a bomb with me at all times... Should there be any restrictions upon me?

Originally Posted by classicman

That's one big IF

How is a law that is applied to ALL women of a particular religion, not just suspected or know terrorists..a big IF?

Ok lets try it this way - My new religion. lets call it bombism, says I must carry a bomb with me at all times... Should there be any restrictions upon me?

The legal system and ultimately, in the US, the Supreme Court, determines what constitutes a legitimate religion under the law.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

How is a law that is applied to ALL women of a particular religion, not just suspected or know terrorists..a big IF?

Dunno about European law, so I cannot say whether or not it is solely applied specifically to their religion, if it is written properly. Then it is the act of concealment not the religion.

The legal system and ultimately, in the US, the Supreme Court, determines what constitutes a legitimate religion under the law.

So I can be discriminated against because someone else doesn't agree with or believe my religion is "legitimate"? Thanks, thats where I was headed.

Originally Posted by classicman

Dunno about European law, so I cannot say whether or not it is solely applied specifically to their religion, if it is written properly. Then it is the act of concealment not the religion.

But it is applied specifically to one religion of which the vast majority of followers are law-abiding and are not suspected or known terrorists.

So I can be discriminated against because someone else doesn't agree with or believe my religion is "legitimate"? Thanks, thats where I was headed.

That is a silly argument. If you want to rob or murder, the law will discriminate against you.

No...it is not "someone", it is the judiciary that interprets the law of the land unless you dont believe in the legal system.

[xoxoxoBruce]

But it is applied specifically to one religion which the vast majority of whose followers are law-abiding.

I don't think so, I read they also prohibited carnival masks on the street.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I don't think so, I read they also prohibited carnival masks on the street.

Well that will take all the fun out of Mardi Gras

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I don't think so, I read they also prohibited carnival masks on the street.

I may be wrong, but I think the recent French law applies to wearing masks in public gatherings or protests. The earlier French law applied only to Burkhas in schools.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

But it is applied specifically to one religion of which the vast majority of followers are law-abiding and are not suspected or known terrorists.

No it is applied to everyone.

That is a silly argument. If you want to rob or murder, the law will discriminate against you.

No...it is not "someone", it is the judiciary that interprets the law of the land unless you dont believe in the legal system.

Incorrect - I never said I wanted to rob or murder anyone. YOU are discriminating against me right now. Why would you say such terrible things about my religious beliefs? Bombism has harmed no one.

Originally Posted by classicman

Incorrect - I never said I wanted to rob or murder anyone. YOU are discriminating against me right now. Why would you say such terrible things about my religious beliefs? Bombism has harmed no one.

Sillier.

Courts interpret and discriminate.

If your "religion" is perceived as posing a threat to society then the courts will probably discriminate against you.

Islam is not a security threat to US or European social order...the threat is from those extremists within the religion who abuse it for their own illegitimate purposes.

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There are over 1 billion Muslims in the world, the overwhelming majority of whom practice their religion peacefully.