Now look what Hezbollah is doing

[Undertoad]

Before 9/11, Hezbollah killed more Americans via terrorism than any other person or organization.

What is the greatest threat to those rockets? A peace settlement that includes Hezbollah as another party.

They aren't interested in peace, because their entire power comes from the 50-100 million dollars of Iranian weaponry supplied to them every year.

They aren't interested in peace; they kill peacekeeping forces.

Meanwhile, notice. Israel left Lebanon. Then they were attacked from there. Israel left Gaza. Then they were attacked from there. So now the "peace solution" is get Israel out of the West Bank? You think it ends there, t? This doesn't seem to work like you think it does.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

This doesn't seem to work like you think it does.

It may not work like you think it does either. It may not all be propaganda and racism that causes the surrounding people to hate Israel.

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Before 9/11, Hezbollah killed more Americans via terrorism than any other person or organization.

And how many civilians has America killed. It's true that they were all 'collateral damage', but I don't think their families want to hear that. But we are telling people in Afghanistan and Iraq to move past it.

The IRA/Sinn Fein has demobilized and is part of the executive branch of Northern Ireland.

The PLO demobilized and became the Palestinian Authority.

If we move to insurgent groups for whom terror was not a tactic or at least not a major one we have such notable leaders as:

John Adams - Sons of Liberty
Yitzhak Rabin - Palmach (not Irgun)
Fidel Castro
Nelson Mandela - African National Congress/MK

BTW, of the last four, the Sons of Liberty might have been the most violent, if you consider tar and feathering an act of terrorism.

[tw]

Originally Posted by richlevy

The IRA/Sinn Fein has demobilized and is part of the executive branch of Northern Ireland.

How did George Mitchell do that? First he had to get all sides to talk. To recognize the other side had valid gripes. To appreciate that neither side really wanted conflict. IOW he had to attack and dispel the extremism of "We good; them evil".

Mitchell is trying to do same in the Middle East. But the one and only major roadblock, constantly obstructing all conversation and negotiation, is Netanyahu. So far, only Netanyahu has been the only a major obstruction. Reason why would be obvious. Netanyahu is Likud.

Likud remembers what happened to have peace with Egypt. Intends to do everything possible to never let that happen again. Why did Likud all but call for the assassination of Rabin - and get it? It's a rhetorical question that also explains why Mitchell – who could even create a Northern Ireland peace settlement – is only having constant problems with one Middle East party.

Likud will not admit that the West Bank is not theirs. Likud remembers what happened in the Sinai. A political agenda is more important than any settlement.