Obama: "I'm ready to negotiate with you, Iran." Iran: "Fuck you."

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Obama (overtly): "Guys, meeting with Iran isn't going to actually work... get ready to fuck them."

Kennedy did same. First he attempted diplomacy. But with wackos on both sides striving for war, eventually a Cuban Missile Crisis had to occur. What was learned? A near destruction of the entire world because wackos had too much power. Both Kennedey and Krushchev were at great pains to reign in their wackos. Kennedy did that in a spectaculor confrontation with Gen Curtis LeMay in the Oval Office. And with McNamara literally riding herd on the Joint Chiefs. Less well known were similar confrontations between Krushchev and his wacko extremists.

Great leaders always first talk to the enemy. Only when diplomacy does not work (because the moderates are being subverted by extremsist), then military precautions are deployed.

One major difference between today and 1960. Iran has a massive reform movement that would be devestated again by doing the most stupid thing - George Jr's overt military threats. The axis of evil.

Obama is only deploying defensive weapons. Too many inspired with 'big dic' syndrome view war as the only solution.