Girl, 6, Handcuffed, Committed Because Of Classroom Behavior

[xoxoxoBruce]

They should water-board her... to find out about her parents, what her home life is like.

[ZenGum]

It's a changeling.

[Sundae]

Offer it eggshells - changelings can't resist them.

[monster]

Originally Posted by tw

6 years old and only 37 pounds (17 kilograms)? That does not imply a serious problem?

A kid so uncontrollable that the teacher, then the principal, then the cops all found her too troubled to handle?

A problem so serious and the parents made no effort to discuss the problem immediately or seek a solution?

A child considered so traumatic that professionals considered immediate psychiatric evaluation necessary?

Every number implies something seriously wrong. And parents are abetting that problem by ignoring it - if not the source of that problem. If your kid is to problematic as to require police - a responsible parent drops everything to address that problem.

Obviously not a problem that anyone here can pass judgement other than to say something is seriously wrong. 6 years old and only 37 pounds (17 Kg)? Why is that not relevant?

Would the behaviour be more acceptable if the kid weighed more and was older? No, it would still point to serious issue that needed dealing with. Therefore it's irrelevant.

If someone is bleeding to death, whether they were shot 20 or 50 times becomes irrelevant.

[lookout123]

6 years old and only 37 pounds (17 Kg)?

Lil Lookout is almost 9 years old and 52 lbs. He might have been 40 lbs when he was 6.

Although the age and weight may be important they could just as easily be irrelevent facts.

[classicman]

The point was restraining a child that small - I was QUESTIONING whether handcuffs were really necessary. Thats all, move along.

[tw]

Originally Posted by monster

Would the behavior be more acceptable if the kid weighed more and was older? No, it would still point to serious issue that needed dealing with.

The kid is seriously underweight. The parent appears not concerned when the kid's behavior is so serious that cops are called. And this behavior continues for a second day - requiring psychological analysis. But none of those would be related or relevant?

Average age for a 17 kg kid is four years old. This kid is below the five percentile. No, weight is not relevant - except for other factors that make it relevant.

Of course other factors are not provided. Height was not provided - a relevant parameter. Based only upon what was provided, a child seriously underweight and a parent without apparent concern add up to greater suspicion.

I like the waterboard solution. Flush evil out of her. Eliminates the need for an exorcist.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by classicman

The point was restraining a child that small - I was QUESTIONING whether handcuffs were really necessary. Thats all, move along.

If someone holds her arms to stop her violence, she'd probably continue to struggle harder and harder. Once the cuffs are on, even a kid would know it's useless to struggle, possibly preventing her being injured.

Or coldcock her.

[ZenGum]

Duct tape. Covers the mouth, too.

Say, can you do a sleeper hold on a six year old?

[wolf]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Say, can you do a sleeper hold on a six year old?

Another six year old probably could, but an adult has trouble getting the proper leverage. More likely to twist their heads clean off, like a chicken.

I'd go with the Helicopter Spin, or maybe just smashing her face into a turnbuckle.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

If someone holds her arms to stop her violence, she'd probably continue to struggle harder and harder. Once the cuffs are on, even a kid would know it's useless to struggle, possibly preventing her being injured.

Or coldcock her.

Can you imagine the uproar if the adults had laid hands on her? Used physical force and manhadled her? Oh, the humanity!

[classicman]

Ya know spex - I guess given that as the only alternative cuffing here was the better of two options, legally. I'm sure there is gonna be some type of lawsuit to follow as ridiculous as that may sound. This is situation is messed up no matter what.

[Gravdigr]

Let me disqualify myself for a moment:

I don't have children. I don't have any children, and it's no accident. I also have never worked at, or been incarcerated in a nut-hatch. I am not now, nor have I ever been a teacher or a principal. I was six once, for about a year. I have never weighed 37 lbs.

That said, here's what the father of that six year old 37 lb girl ought to do, and what I would do, if this were my child:

Go to a bar with a gravel parking lot (if there is at least one motorcycle in the lot, all the better, you're at the right place). Go in, pull up a stool, climb up on it, and tell this story. Then hire three--no, four--of the beefiest guys there (they'll probably work cheap, maybe free). Have them handcuff whomever made the decision to handcuff and commit a six year old 37 lb girl and beat their miserable ass to a pulp. Then employ approximately one gallon of Amoco Ultimate to set this wonderful person fire. But be sure to put them out right before they die from it.

I don't care if the six year old 37 lb girl pulled a knife and held it to someone's throat, their solution was extremely heavy-handed and uncalled for.

[xoxoxoBruce]

And what would you do if that kid pulled a knife and held it to your throat?

[Happy Monkey]

Take the knife away?