Impeding changes to our Health Care system

[TheMercenary]

Here is a good one totally wrapped in lies and fallacy.

Build more clinics.

Who is going to staff them?

Where are you going to get the doctors to see all these new patients? How about nurses? How about medical support staff? Who is going to find money to help the states pay for these unfunded mandates?
There are still millions of un-insured people at the end of the day and not a damm thing has been done to control the costs of the insurance company controlling the premiums, co-pays, and deductibles of those who already have insurance. The whole system is flawed and it was sold to the American public with lies. Fact.
Here is another fact. If the Republickins take control of the House, Senate, or White House in the next 10 years all bets are off.
Here is a good one too. Fact: the majority of the American public think this is a bad idea and the Demoncrats ignored the electorate.

The points in the article are not facts, they are undocumented opinions

I will take an expert opinion over those of an unknown unnamed poster who is a self proclaimed Demoncratic shill on a public forum anyday, you lose on that account hands down.

I do agree that the CBO budget estimate of deficit reductions are optimistic.

One of the few admissions that I have seen you make since you started to post here, and that is an understatement. You don't mean those estimates from that Deciever in Chief, Peter Orsag?

The significant investment in medical/health care technology (in both the stimulus bill and the health reform bill) will save $$$ billions over time.

Total bullshit. There are no facts that support this, only opinion.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Here is a good one totally wrapped in lies and fallacy.

Build more clinics.

Who is going to staff them?

Where are you going to get the doctors to see all these new patients?

The bill significantly increases funding (more than double) for the National Health Service Corps to provide scholarships and loan repayments in exchange for a commitment to work in under-served areas.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Total bullshit. There are no facts that support this, only opinion.

Between $400 - $500 billion in revenue and cost reductions is hard money...as I pointed out.

If you dont think the significant investment in technology will also result in savings, then we disagree. Look at any industry that has invested in technology and you will find savings over time.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Fact: the majority of the American public think this is a bad idea and the Demoncrats ignored the electorate.

cite?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

The bill significantly increases funding (more than double) for the National Health Service Corps to provide scholarships and loan repayments in exchange for a commitment to work in under-served areas.

Great. Who can make the grade? Who qualifies to make it in the profession? You think anyone can just walk up and be a healthcare provider, a nurse, a doctor? How long does it take from beginning to end to make one? How competitive is it to get into school? Ask around and you will see that plan is a complete failure. The one thing that will happen is that you will see a huge influx of FMG's come to the US from other nations to perform the work. Job creation my ass.

Between $400 - $500 billion in revenue and cost reductions is hard money...as I pointed out.

It is funny money created by moving the numbers around. All bets are off if they don't cut the Medicare by 21%, which will sink any Dem who votes for it in the next election, which they have not been able to pull off for years. And when a new administration takes office all bets are off again, they just vote in overrides and change the law, again.

If you dont think the significant investment in technology will also result in savings, then we disagree. Look at any industry that has invested in technology and you will find savings.

As a healthcare worker myself I know it is bullshit. No, what we find in government investments is the funneling of money for political gain to projects that have no proven track record of success and most of the money being sent to states and projects within the districts of the Congressional Whores who happen to have power at the time of the Bill. Different side of the same coin.

Take electronic medical records, which we have talked about numerous times on here, savings? Some. But it will never do what the Obama Admin and his Handlers said it would do and it never will.

Those "technology" estimates of savings are a guess, opinion.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

cite?

Man, you must really have your head in the sand if you need help with that one. No wonder you are going lose Reid in Nov.