Impeding changes to our Health Care system

[Undertoad]

This is really a discussion on the philosophy of government

This is a standard libertarian trick: if you can't get a good result in the Real World, where people make and judge and implement laws, just change the argument to the libertarian utopian "philosophy" world that doesn't actually exist and never has existed.

And then the argument is about what kind of world that would be, and you can win any of those arguments, because you've constructed it.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

This is a standard libertarian trick: if you can't get a good result in the Real World, where people make and judge and implement laws, just change the argument to the libertarian utopian "philosophy" world that doesn't actually exist and never has existed.

And we reply with the philosophical question And just why shouldn't it? We figure that we've got some insight into a better, small-government road. It's adult thinking, not dependent thinking. Free thinking, not bound.

I for one do not believe in Utopia and never did and thus escape that pitfall. I've put it to Libertarians that "pure libertarianism," however defined, isn't possible. Accepting that, some more libertarian ideas in our political culture would not go amiss among the party of adult thinking however denominated.