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			 barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. 
			
			
			
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			You are again confusing their beliefs with the institution. And to say its "so many" seems rather disingenuous.  Singling them out when it was already clearly shown that is not a situation limited to just Catholics.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			 Come on, cat. 
			
			
			
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			Ya, but see, what you don't understand about those other churches is excuse, excuse, justification, and redirection. I'm a little disappointed in you...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 I'm sure it's because I was raised Catholic. If I'd been raised atheist I'd prbably be anti-Catholic anyway, What with the birth control thing and all. I just knew so many decent devout people growing up. And of course grew up under the IRA threat. We had to be whiter than white to prove we weren't terrorists ourselves. No, really - Grandad's surname is Doyle - it was an issue. I've said before, I am a dyed in the wool atheiest. Nothing short of a personal vision (and that's likely to be drug-induced) will get me to believe in God. But I do believe that individual people have better ideals than those they are supposed to represent. I would never accuse members of this forum of torture. And I'm sure they would not accuse me - but it has happened. I would not call every single American here a racist because of the Ku Klux Klan, and I would hope no-one would tar me with the same brush as the BNP. Ha. I've just defended a religion I don't believe in, while arguing with Dana about another religion I don't believe in. Sigh.  | 
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