June 20, 2010: Helter Skelter

xoxoxoBruce · 06-19-2010, 11:19 PM

When I get to the bottom
I go back to the top of the slide
Where I stop and turn
and I go for a ride
Till I get to the bottom and I see you again
Yeah, yeah, yeah

Catchy, but what the hell are they talking about?

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An almost exclusively British term for a spiral fairground slide, helter skelter is known in the US from songs by the Beatles, Oasis and Genesis, and from the association with Charles Manson. In the UK its one of those things that every child can recognize, but which when you really look at, becomes strangely unfamiliar and weird - an architectural naked lunch. The taste of this naked lunch combines hints of jousting, medieval pageants and overtones of Paganesque Englishness, from Morris Dancing to the Wicker Man. Its principal flavor, however, is of the English seaside: damp and Victorian.

OK, building towers where tourists will pay to climb up for a better view, is a long standing tradition... look at the Eiffel Tower. One of the things I've noticed climbing things like The Statue of Liberty, the Washington Monument and the Empire State Building, is when people get up to the top, they want to stay there. That tends to slow down the traffic (revenue flow).
These Helter Skelter builders found an ingenious way to entice people to keep moving... and peek at petticoats.

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toranokaze · 06-20-2010, 01:24 AM

It is from an old movie about some sailor who meets his wife after the Great war, they meet at the lonely hearts club, and the main character says how helter skelter things where getting.

However, it is neat to know what a helter skelter is.

Crimson Ghost · 06-20-2010, 02:33 AM

The Cellar: You only realize life is all helter skelter once it has gone all pear-shaped.

Sundae · 06-20-2010, 05:01 AM

Tora - Helter Skelters were around long before talkies.
The phrase meaning things going badly might have gained popularity from a film, but the British meaning has always been rgis type of spiral slide.

I loved helter skelters as a child. They're your first experience of the throll that adults get from rollercoasters. I have an early memory of being on holiday and going down on my Dad's lap, followed by my sister going down on Mum's lap. Mum had to slow them down because Laura was frightened. I was encouraging my Dad to go faster! faster! I would have been 4 at the most, as my brother was not yet born.

You go down on a mat btw, not just sitting on the slide. It's not smooth either, like one in a playground. It had treads on it, like a wooden escalator. I assume this speeds you up. And you used to pay by mat, hence our doubling up.

Helter skelters aren't just for kids either. Certainly when I was younger a lot of adults went on. This might have changed now that fairground/ theme park rides have moved on.

There was one in Great Yarmouth Pleasure Beach that went down into a huge wooden underground bowl. We stood for what seemed like hours just watching the riders spill out into it. We didn't have the money to go on it ourselves, but I remember just watching seemed eventful enough.

Griff · 06-20-2010, 05:30 PM

Neat, I wonder where the oldest one is and for that matter where the first was?

Trilby · 06-20-2010, 05:37 PM

Mmmmmmmmmmmm...phallic.

Cloud · 06-20-2010, 05:59 PM

how odd. I have never heard of or seen that. I just thought it meant all--chaotic.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-20-2010, 07:55 PM

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I've checked my copy of "Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable", as well as some online sites, but none of them really seem to know exactly how the phrase originated. It was saddled with its current meaning sometime before 1600s, but according to some sources may have been used even before that with a slightly different meaning. One of the first appearances of the phrase with its modern meaning was in "Four letters confuted", written by Thomas Nashe in 1592:

"Helter skelter, feare no colours, course him, trounce him."

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Coign · 06-21-2010, 12:34 PM

While doing added research, here is a modern indoor helter skelter.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-seconds.html

Sundae · 06-21-2010, 12:44 PM

Trust the Hate Mail to inject a completely pointless dig into the article

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It will inevitably give the health and safety police palpitations

Why? Is it unsafe? Is it not anchored properly? Will it kill people?
No. It's fantastic. Having a Slippery Slip in your own office. I'd work there for free.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-21-2010, 01:55 PM

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The new Electric Works in Sheffield with the UK's first office helter skelter for workers

Would that make it an....

Electric Slide?

TheMercenary · 06-21-2010, 02:01 PM

Pretty interesting. Common people separated by a language or something like that...

Cicero · 06-21-2010, 04:54 PM

This is fantastic Bruce! Thank you for clearing up this mystery for me. Now I must clearly repost!

Undertoad · 06-21-2010, 06:05 PM

A helter skelter could have saved the people on 9/11

But then again if you skelted down 100 floors, you'd be going so fast by the bottom that your ass would be on fire.

Aiyyo, don't wear polyester down the tube thing, man, it melts. Yeah man yesterday some guy burned his nads on that thing.

Clodfobble · 06-21-2010, 07:36 PM

It's not truly a helter skelter, but there's an old elementary school here that still has emergency exit slides coming down from most rooms on the second floor. Never seen anything like it on any other building.

06-20-2010, 01:24 AM	#2
toranokaze I'm still a jerk Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Little Mexico Posts: 1,817	It is from an old movie about some sailor who meets his wife after the Great war, they meet at the lonely hearts club, and the main character says how helter skelter things where getting. However, it is neat to know what a helter skelter is. __________________ "Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible." - Frank Zappa It is the ignorance of ignorance that lead to the death of knowledge The Virgin Mary does not weep for her son, for he is in paradise. She weeps for the world , for we are in suffering.

06-20-2010, 02:33 AM	#3
Crimson Ghost Larger than life and twice as ugly. Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,264	The Cellar: You only realize life is all helter skelter once it has gone all pear-shaped. __________________ We must all go through a rite of passage. It must be physical, it must be painful, and it must leave a mark. I have no knowledge of the events which you are describing, and if I did have knowledge of them, I would be unable to discuss them with you now or at any future period. Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years

06-20-2010, 05:30 PM	#5
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Neat, I wonder where the oldest one is and for that matter where the first was? __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-20-2010, 05:37 PM	#6
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Mmmmmmmmmmmm...phallic. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

06-20-2010, 05:59 PM	#7
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	how odd. I have never heard of or seen that. I just thought it meant all--chaotic. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

06-20-2010, 05:01 AM	#4
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Tora - Helter Skelters were around long before talkies. The phrase meaning things going badly might have gained popularity from a film, but the British meaning has always been rgis type of spiral slide. I loved helter skelters as a child. They're your first experience of the throll that adults get from rollercoasters. I have an early memory of being on holiday and going down on my Dad's lap, followed by my sister going down on Mum's lap. Mum had to slow them down because Laura was frightened. I was encouraging my Dad to go faster! faster! I would have been 4 at the most, as my brother was not yet born. You go down on a mat btw, not just sitting on the slide. It's not smooth either, like one in a playground. It had treads on it, like a wooden escalator. I assume this speeds you up. And you used to pay by mat, hence our doubling up. Helter skelters aren't just for kids either. Certainly when I was younger a lot of adults went on. This might have changed now that fairground/ theme park rides have moved on. There was one in Great Yarmouth Pleasure Beach that went down into a huge wooden underground bowl. We stood for what seemed like hours just watching the riders spill out into it. We didn't have the money to go on it ourselves, but I remember just watching seemed eventful enough.

06-21-2010, 12:34 PM	#9
Coign Wanted Driver Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vail, CO Posts: 279	While doing added research, here is a modern indoor helter skelter. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-seconds.html __________________ Quoting yourself is the height of hubris. -Coign

06-21-2010, 02:01 PM	#12
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Pretty interesting. Common people separated by a language or something like that...

06-21-2010, 04:54 PM	#13
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	This is fantastic Bruce! Thank you for clearing up this mystery for me. Now I must clearly repost! __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

06-21-2010, 06:05 PM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	A helter skelter could have saved the people on 9/11 But then again if you skelted down 100 floors, you'd be going so fast by the bottom that your ass would be on fire. Aiyyo, don't wear polyester down the tube thing, man, it melts. Yeah man yesterday some guy burned his nads on that thing.

06-21-2010, 07:36 PM	#15
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	It's not truly a helter skelter, but there's an old elementary school here that still has emergency exit slides coming down from most rooms on the second floor. Never seen anything like it on any other building. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

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