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Old 09-08-2010, 08:27 AM   #1
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What needs to happen is that moderate Christians need to denounce the event as distinctly un-Christian.

That is after all what a lot of people asked the Muslims to do.

And it's easy, I mean, I could do it directly from the teachings of Christ, and I'm an anti-theist.
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:25 AM   #2
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I'm somehow very proud of all the above comments by Dwellars

This AM on TV one of the reporters said the preacher was being pressured to cancel and was saying they would go ahead with the "event". The reporter then said the preacher had left some wiggle room by saying that he would cancel if "his God spoke to him"

What would he do if it was Allah that spoke ?
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:00 AM   #3
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I'm somehow very proud of all the above comments by Dwellars

This AM on TV one of the reporters said the preacher was being pressured to cancel and was saying they would go ahead with the "event". The reporter then said the preacher had left some wiggle room by saying that he would cancel if "his God spoke to him"

What would he do if it was Allah that spoke ?
I really don't trust the guy. He basically has a congregation of 50 people and now has the whole world looking at him for his greatest 15 min of fame, all fueled by the press coverage.
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:53 AM   #4
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That is after all what a lot of people asked the Muslims to do.
Something they have generally failed to do in a big way.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:06 AM   #5
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Something they have generally failed to do in a big way.
First cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

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5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
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Old 09-08-2010, 05:27 PM   #6
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First cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
My point is that moderate muslims have failed to speak up about the years of violence. I am not a fan of polls but some of the ones taken after the bus bombings in the UK were quite interesting. In this country I see a huge outcry against this idiot from many Christian groups, his own kind.
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