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Old 09-29-2010, 02:17 PM   #1
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I know damn well if this technology were to become a reality, nation states would closely control it's use for their own benefit. Running down to Home Depot for a wormhole is not in the cards.
I had hoped someone in here would tell me how to prevent that scenario? I believe we need this technology mostly for the environmental reasons and there is no guarantee that the nation states would allow applying it at any time ever.
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How do we know what the consequences of moving the heat from the earth's core to the atmosphere are going to be? Will it cause excess cooling of the core, and shrinkage causing massive earthquakes, tsunamis, super volcanoes and prairie dog suicides?
It is only a possibility and needs separate studies. I mean there would be an extreme access to sun rays at the earth or other planets of the solar system, windy regions at various heights, and also geothermal points by means of this technology. The right choice is up to other aspects of the story.
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Mass access to teleportation would be cool, but at the same time it would suck. Those remote exotic locations would lose their charm if they were easy to get to and millions of people around the world decided they wanted to go there. … Put another way, there would no longer be rural areas, it would all be one big suburb.
Thus, we need to think about the ways of keeping the privacy in such a world. There are millions of cell phones, air planes, telescopes, … but people can still have a privacy. There must be a solution …
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I don't think we'd be welcome in other populated parts of the universe.
What happened to Indians when the white people discovered the America? It would depend on which side is stronger and more violent … !
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:37 PM   #2
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I had hoped someone in here would tell me how to prevent that scenario? I believe we need this technology mostly for the environmental reasons and there is no guarantee that the nation states would allow applying it at any time ever.
It has to get into as many hands as possible in the shortest possible time-frame, so it is assumed to be humanities' birthright. If we can manipulate time and space, that shouldn't be a problem.
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Old 09-29-2010, 08:33 PM   #3
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It has to get into as many hands as possible in the shortest possible time-frame, so it is assumed to be humanities' birthright. If we can manipulate time and space, that shouldn't be a problem.
Which is why you need the guys from Google and Wikipedia on board.
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Old 09-30-2010, 03:09 AM   #4
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It has to get into as many hands as possible in the shortest possible time-frame, so it is assumed to be humanities' birthright. If we can manipulate time and space, that shouldn't be a problem.
That's correct, but when this idea comes to practical details, the situation gets disappointing … BTW, we'd be able to manipulate only space, NOT time.
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Old 09-29-2010, 01:45 PM   #5
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I don't think we'd be welcome in other populated parts of the universe.
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:00 PM   #6
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In Larry Niven's Known Space setting, Earth has teleportation pods all over. In the beginning of Ringworld, the main character celebrates his birthday by having a party in every time zone, extending the day as long as he can.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:05 PM   #7
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Mansouryar, I hope you'll post in other Cellar forums. I think a lot of us would be interested in learning more about you.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:54 AM   #8
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I will post if I have time and something to say, but I think devoting time to this wormhole stuff would be more useful for me & others, than commenting on the matters that I don't know about them, as good as this one.
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This page contains some links to interesting articles. I suggest reading them; however those are rather old, but consider the progress in this field is unfortunately slow:
http://www.earthtech.org/press/index.html
For example, this article is informative IMO:
http://www.earthtech.org/press/2004....ation_week.pdf
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Old 10-29-2010, 06:54 AM   #9
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Reading this story made my day:
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Breaking the Law of Gravity
By Charles Platt
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6...ravity_pr.html
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Don't care to its publishing date, it's really well-written & straightforward. I wish all the science journalists would have written this style.
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:16 AM   #10
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I will post if I have time and something to say, but I think devoting time to this wormhole stuff would be more useful for me & others, than commenting on the matters that I don't know about them, as good as this one.
So you're only here to promote your wormhole.
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This page contains some links to interesting articles. I suggest reading them; however those are rather old, but consider the progress in this field is unfortunately slow:
http://www.earthtech.org/press/index.html
For example, this article is informative IMO:
http://www.earthtech.org/press/2004....ation_week.pdf
That first link has 17 stories, which one are you suggesting? The second describes research in 2004, what was the result?
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Reading this story made my day:
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Breaking the Law of Gravity
By Charles Platt
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6...ravity_pr.html
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Don't care to its publishing date, it's really well-written & straightforward. I wish all the science journalists would have written this style.
Not interested in science fiction from 1986.
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Old 10-29-2010, 02:57 PM   #11
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So you're only here to promote your wormhole.
If I like a subject, I am not shy to refuse commenting on it. Also, can you name any other idea having wider range of applications than wormhole/spacewarp? After nuking Japan, the world has lived under the shadow of a technology which people have not had enough time to analyze it before realize it. This wormhole technology could have much greater impacts than the nuclear technology and therefore we'd better review all aspects about it before the governments could launch another miserable race by that.
A forum thread is just one step, it deserves that thinkers to write books about it IMHO.
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That first link has 17 stories, which one are you suggesting? The second describes research in 2004, what was the result?
All of them. Sadly, the newest of them backs to 2004; however the related progress is slow and I guess main achievements have not been published for the public.
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Not interested in science fiction from 1986.
That is not sci-fi; I suggest to read all of that. I just enjoyed it and wanted to share my pleasure with others.
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Old 01-07-2011, 02:13 PM   #12
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Just FYI: A summary of a good book:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1101.1063
Progress in revolutionary propulsion physics; Authors: Marc G. Millis; (Submitted on 5 Jan 2011)
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And another related paper by the same author:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1101.1066
Energy, incessant obsolescence, and the first interstellar missions
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