Of all the beliefs you hold, the most dangerous...

[xoxoxoBruce]

You're limiting the meaning of "faith". By projecting your meaning of the word, you misinterpret what others are saying, when they use the #1 meaning.

1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3. belief in god or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4. belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5. a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
6. the obligation of loyalty or fidelity to a person, promise, engagement, etc.: Failure to appear would be breaking faith.
7. the observance of this obligation; fidelity to one's promise, oath, allegiance, etc.: He was the only one who proved his faith during our recent troubles.
8. Christian Theology . the trust in God and in His promises as made through Christ and the Scriptures by which humans are justified or saved.
—Idiom
9. in faith, in truth; indeed: In faith, he is a fine lad.

[Lamplighter]

Agreed, the distinction between the two words is not precise.
So, it's the colloquial use of the two words here in this thread,
and what Classic means when he uses them.

From your same source here is "belief"

1. something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat.
2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief.
3. confidence; faith; trust: a child's belief in his parents.
4. a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith: the Christian belief

[classicman]

Originally Posted by monster

Why would you believe something you don't know to be true?

Originally Posted by classicman

Its called faith.

From Wiki: Faith is the confident belief or trust in a person, idea, or thing that is not based on proof.
Faith is also referred to as “confidence or trust in a person or thing”.
As in, evidences of someone’s abilities gave him the faith that they had the ability to do the same (or similar) again.
And therefore can be based on proofs or evidences, which can then be projected onto future events.

That clearer, Lamp?

[Lamplighter]

From Wiki: Faith is the confident belief or trust in a person, idea, or thing that is not based on proof.
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Originally Posted by classicman

That clearer, Lamp?

I think we were saying the same thing about "faith"

My experience is along the lines that people can have different beliefs, and essentially agree to disagree.
But if they have different faiths (religious or not) it's an emotional difference that can lead to arguments.

So in this thread, you are the master of your own words.

`I don't know what you mean by "glory,"' Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously.
`Of course you don't -- till I tell you.
I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'
`But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument,"' Alice objected.

`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone,
`it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'
`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.'
`The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master - - that's all.
'Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again.
`They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs, they're the proudest --
adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs --
however, I can manage the whole of them!
Impenetrability! That's what I say!'

`Would you tell me, please,' said Alice `what that means?`
`Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased.
`I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject,
and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next,
as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.'

(Through the Looking Glass, Chapter 6)