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~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Hi bigv v and hope your Christmas was grand
....and Thanks. If my application slips through the screening process, then more power to me eh? I have some experience, just not the paper.In this economic climate, having the certification is one qualification listed and /or a combination of experience and classes. I might not beat out a person with holding a degree now, but I can sharpen my teeth so to speak. ![]() I should also add, when the time comes, if I am not employed in something I want, I plan to take anything to make a buck, even if it means substitute work, retail or cleaning retirement homes. |
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Person who doesn't update the user title
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods
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Whether it is for the better or worse, the application process for (OR) State employment is pretty cut and dried.
It's first a matter of "points" First, as a former State employee, you may get a few brownie points if the position you're applying for is similar to your previous job(s), or you are a Vet or.... Next, the Position Announcement will almost always show the Closing Date or Date Available. So there's no point in applying if you are not "qualified" by that date. Of course, go for it if the position is "Open until Filled", or such. Your application will be screened by a Dept of Employment employee who is only interested in completing a check list, matching or scoring your Application against each item in the Position Announcement ... cut-and-dried, little or no sympathy or expectations about your future. The Department manager who has authority to hire will receive a list of only the top 3 applicants, and must choose from that list ...unless the Manager can prove to Dept of Employment that one or more are not qualified for some reason or other. So if your application scores #5 or lower, it's unlikely you will even be interviewed. Of course, if you have an connection somehow with the hiring Manager, it may be a motivation to reach further down the list. But even then, it's an extra effort (bureaucratic CYA) for the Manger. Most Managers do not want to get that involved, mainly because the State and Feds have so many "fair employment" laws they must follow. It's a stilted procedure to work with, but it is ultimately fair to everyone. My main advice is to prepare your Application precisely and exactly as is stated in the Position Announcement. Try to use the same words as in the PA in describing your qualifications and experience, and pay close attention to anything that even sounds like it's "required" or "preferred" What is it they say in athletics ?... "Become the Ball" so "Become the Screener" |
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