Osama bin Laden is DEAD

[Jill]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

OH Snap to that bitch!

You just called me a bitch?

You really are a piece of work, aren't you?

You are a prime example of why I despise Republicans. Utterly incapable of an adult conversation on any topic. And if they don't like what you say, they resort to nasty, ugly rhetoric against their opponent. Your mother must be so proud.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Jill

You just called me a bitch?

You really are a piece of work, aren't you?

You are a prime example of why I despise Republicans. Utterly incapable of an adult conversation on any topic. And if they don't like what you say, they resort to nasty, ugly rhetoric against their opponent. Your mother must be so proud.

You are silly. First, I am not a Republickin, you God Damm fool. You failed to convince me of your partisan bull shit, so you failed in a big way. No big deal. We just disagree. I could give a crap. None of your feelings or opinions change my lifestyle, my income, my relationships with other people, and really have no effect on me what so ever. No big deal. Just move on with your piece of shit life and quit blaming others for your crap life. Your opinions are insignificant. It really should not be life changing for you. Plenty of people in life disagree and you just happen to fall into the category of people who I think do not count.

[Uday]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You are silly. First, I am not a Republickin fool. You failed to convince me of your partisan bull shit, so you failed in a big way. No big deal. We just disagree. I could give a crap. None of your feelings or opinions change my lifestyle, my income, my relationships with other people, and really have no effect on me what so ever. No big deal. Just move on with your piece of shit life and quit blaming others for your crap life. Your opinions are insignificant. It really should not be life changing for you. Plenty of people in life disagree and you just happen to fall into the category of people who I think do not count.

:|

[Jill]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You are silly. First, I am not a Republickin, you God Damm fool. You failed to convince me of your partisan bull shit, so you failed in a big way. No big deal. We just disagree. I could give a crap. None of your feelings or opinions change my lifestyle, my income, my relationships with other people, and really have no effect on me what so ever. No big deal. Just move on with your piece of shit life and quit blaming others for your crap life. Your opinions are insignificant. It really should not be life changing for you. Plenty of people in life disagree and you just happen to fall into the category of people who I think do not count.

"Fuck off", "you bitch," and now "you G-d Damn fool," "your piece of shit life," and "your crap life."

And this is "no big deal, we just disagree" in your world?

You know nothing of my life, dude. What's the matter with you? Are you mentally ill or something? You certainly seem to have come unhinged.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Jill

"Fuck off", "you bitch," and now "you G-d Damn fool," "your piece of shit life," and "your crap life."

And this is "no big deal, we just disagree" in your world?

You know nothing of my life, dude. What's the matter with you? Are you mentally ill or something? You certainly seem to have come unhinged.

Is this where you cry and tell us all how some Lender held a gun to your head to make you sign the paperwork for a screwed up loan? And then you turn around and blame it on the "system"?

[Jill]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

When we look at what the people need to know about what the government is up to, there are a number of different perspectives, and they certainly don't all have the same answer.

Surely anyone can understand that if a government has charged the military or some other agency to deal with a certain individual, it's not going to be helpful if everyone in the country knows what's going on, therefore the people find out after the fact and then wonder why they weren't consulted.

The purpose of having a democratically elected government is so that every person has the right to have a say in who represents their own personal views in government because we all understand that if every decision had to be made with the approval of every person, we'd never get anywhere.

So, you vote for your representative and trust that they're going to make the right decisions on your behalf. If you're not happy with it, you don't vote for them again.

If you don't vote, IMO, you shouldn't have a right to complain either way.

I primarily agree with this. We don't need to know everything there is to know about covert operations. There's a reason those operations are "covert" in the first place.

But when your government has lied the country into war, has committed acts of torture, has exposed the identity of a CIA agent to further their political agenda, among other unnecessary lies and deceptions, it should be no wonder that when those who are angered by that behavior from our government, learn of a "secret" group who are charged with sneaking into other countries and killing people at the sole bequest of the Vice-President (which is what was apparently known at the time), that we would characterize them as "assassins".

Under a different government that has no known history of lying us into a war, risking people's lives to cover their own political asses, or torturing prisoners, when we learn of a covert operation to take out the Most Wanted Man in the world, we're less likely to first presume the worst.

This is a concept that Mercenary doesn't seem to grasp. But the American public grasped it handily in 2008 and voted the Party of Lies & Torture out on their asses. As you correctly point out, that is our primary remedy under our current form of government.

I part ways slightly with you on the contention that if you don't vote you can't complain. My husband is a resident alien, and as such, he's not allowed to vote. But what our government does or doesn't do still affects him as much as it does you or me. The same could be said of teens who haven't reached voting age yet. I don't think they shouldn't be allowed to complain.

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

For the record, I dont think the Tea Party is a racist organization.

But simply that your videos of the Muslim Student Association are highly selective.

Religious organizations on college campuses attract a wide range of people, from those who want social connections to those who want to promote a radical agenda.

A Catholic student suggesting that doctors who perform legal abortions should be tried as murderers does not reflect the mission of a Newman Center or Catholic Students Association any more than selected extremists Muslims reflect the mission of the Muslim Students Association.

It should tell you something that you have to literally draw this man a picture in order to try to get him to understand what should have been clear with your first post. It tells me all I need to know, that even with this further illustration of your well-made point, his response is to cuss at you, too.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Jill

I primarily agree with this. We don't need to know everything there is to know about covert operations. There's a reason those operations are "covert" in the first place.

But yet you could not respond to me with that. Ok. Cool. You are weak.

bla, bla, bla, bla, blaaaaa....

The rest of your points are insignificant and completely ridiculous. But free to believe your fantasy world...

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

But yet you could not respond to me with that. Ok. Cool. You are weak.

...

She pretty much did Merc. You just weren't fucking listening.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by DanaC

She pretty much did Merc. You just weren't fucking listening.

No, the fool responded to someone else.

[Jill]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

But yet you could not respond to me with that. Ok. Cool. You are weak.

No. Quite simply because I wasn't discussing covert operations in general. I was attempting to explain to you why your allegation of hypocrisy on the part of the Left was misplaced, by pointing out the difference between how the American public is treated by each of the Administrations in question.

You're the one who picked apart my post and gave a series of point-by-point "you don't need to know [this particular thing]" retorts.

Not. The. Point. Dude.

What I'm trying to get through your pointy little head is that if:

Person A REPEATEDLY LIES TO YOU WITH KNOWN FALSEHOODS, ENGAGES IN COVER-UPS, SECRETLY COMMITS CRIMINAL ACTS AGAINST PRISONERS, AND VARIOUS OTHER DECEPTIONS, but

Person B CONSISTENTLY KEEPS THE PUBLIC INFORMED, HAS NO HISTORY OF FALSIFYING FACTS TO TAKE US TO WAR, AND HAS NOT COMMITTED ANY CRIMINAL ACTS AGAINST PRISONERS

Person B is more likely to be given the benefit of the doubt about the use of covert arms of our military.

But instead of responding to the actual point, you told me to fuck off, called me a bitch and a G-d damn fool, and laughingly referred to my life as crap, simply because you're completely incapable of grasping nuance or articulating a rebuttal argument of any merit.

I don't trust that you'll understand this reasoning, but for the casual reader, there it is.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Jill

Bla.. bla... bla...

I just don't care what you think about anything..... You have not changed my mind. You are a God Damm Fool.