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[DanaC]

But that's precisely the point. By bringing those soldiers home and closing the bases you cut down costs.



[eta] hang on what? Wtf has eliminating paper money got to do with anything?

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by DanaC

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[eta] hang on what? Wtf has eliminating paper money got to do with anything?

Start with the penny.

It cost 1.79 cents to produce one penny. Eliminate the penny, save $billions.

[tw]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Wtf has eliminating paper money got to do with anything?

No troops can be brought home if something so simple - elimiante the paper dollar bill - cannot even be done. Why is that so difficult? Why do extremists want more than 20,000 American soldiers stationed permanently in Iraq? They cannot even eliminate the dollar bill. That says why other more difficult solutions cannot happen.

And yes, also eliminate the penny. That is also obvious. It is it not obvious to anyone, then that person could not see the real problem. If the penny cannot be eliminated, then how will any 'power that be' have enough foresight to bring any soldiers home? Cannot happen. A problem directly traceable to a Congress with too many extremists and not enough moderates.

IOW, if Congress had moderates, then obscene spending on a penny and paper dollar bill would be eliminated immediately. Examples of why the problems are not being addressed. And why some American want 20,000 American troops permenantly stations in Iraq.

I really do not see why the bigger picture is so difficult?

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by tw

No troops can be brought home if something so simple - elimiante the paper dollar bill - cannot even be done.

That's got to be the dumbest straw-man argument I've seen, tw. Do you also say, "They put a man on the moon. Why can't they ..."?

Same thing.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

Same thing.

I can appreciate your logic. But the problem remains spending money we do not have. Not about solving impossible social problems (where your quoted argument was often found). The 'we can put a man on the moon... " argument justified spending on other things that were not solvable by government. Our government spending problems are solvable only when we address obvious and simple government inaction first. Like the silly paper dollar bill and the penny.

Meanwhile, if people who put 'a man on the moon' were the 'powers that be', then even the paper dollar bill, the penny, and other spending problems would be solved. The problem is a Congress so full of extremists. So extremist as to not even put a man back on the moon - the foolish Constellation and Aries program.

How's that for irony.