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Fair&Balanced · 06-01-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Really? How'd that work out for Rawanda and subsequently The Congo in the years afterwards?

Putting aside the fact that it is irrelevant to the discussion of Libya or the Arab spring uprisings, we knew about massacres in Rwanda and the Congo because of the press.

Try to stay on topic, please.

TheMercenary · 06-01-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Putting aside the fact that it is irrelevant to the discussion of Libya or the Arab spring uprisings, we knew about massacres in Rwanda and the Congo because of the press.

Try to stay on topic, please.

Actually it was quite unreported in the press. And the follow on massacres in the Congo hardly made the press at all. Don't try to deflect your failure to keep the facts straight.

Fair&Balanced · 06-01-2011, 11:23 AM

Sure, if you say so and if you believe it is relevant to the Arab spring uprisings.

TheMercenary · 06-01-2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Sure, if you say so and if you believe it is relevant to the Arab spring uprisings.

It is relevant to your false statement: "Zero press means fewer massacres taking place."

Fair&Balanced · 06-01-2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

It is relevant to your false statement: "Zero press means fewer massacres taking place."

Only if you want to be argumentative, given that my response was directed at Libya.

You have evidence that more massacres have taken place in Libya in recent days?

classicman · 06-01-2011, 01:09 PM

Do you have evidence that no massacres took place in Libya in recent days?

I'M KIDDING!

Spexxvet · 06-01-2011, 01:16 PM

Do you have evidence that you're kidding?

I do. I saw it in the press!

TheMercenary · 06-01-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Only if you want to be argumentative, given that my response was directed at Libya.

You have evidence that more massacres have taken place in Libya in recent days?

It matters not, the statement was utterly false.

Actually few true massacres have taken place in Libya. Troops firing on selected crowds and killing them hardly amounts to a massacre, an atrocity certainly. Unlike when the UN failed to act in Bosnia and a true massacre did occur. NATO had to step in without a UN mandate and get the job done when the EU should have dealt with the whole issue independently.

infinite monkey · 06-01-2011, 03:52 PM

I can't find a definition for the threshold for massacre.

classicman · 06-01-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Do you have evidence that you're kidding?

I do. I saw it in the press!

We've long had the discussion of calling out someone to prove the negative...

And I FUCKIN' SAID SO in the post.

Yes I know you were being sorta humorous as well...

DanaC · 06-01-2011, 04:05 PM

Umm...I was listening to and watching the news reports of the massacres in Rwanda pretty much as they were happening. There was lots of news coverage.

[eta] Just saw on tonight's news an estimated 40 people have been massacred by government troops in Syria.

Spexxvet · 06-01-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

We've long had the discussion of calling out someone to prove the negative...

And I FUCKIN' SAID SO in the post.

Yes I know you were being sorta humorous as well...

I was being completely humorous.

Fair&Balanced · 06-01-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Umm...I was listening to and watching the news reports of the massacres in Rwanda pretty much as they were happening. There was lots of news coverage.

[eta] Just saw on tonight's news an estimated 40 people have been massacred by government troops in Syria.

Syria continues to spiral downward and a soft EU-sponsored draft resolution at the UN this week that simply condemned the actions of the government was opposed by Russia and China before even coming to a vote.

I dont know a reasonable way to prevent further violence unless Russia or Iran pressures Assad.

classicman · 06-01-2011, 08:30 PM

napalm?

ZenGum · 06-01-2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Umm...I was listening to and watching the news reports of the massacres in Rwanda pretty much as they were happening. There was lots of news coverage.

Me too. Lots of it.
Maybe it depends on which news sources people were watching. And if you think your news sources weren't reporting Rwanda properly, maybe you should broaden your news sources.

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[eta] Just saw on tonight's news an estimated 40 people have been massacred by government troops in Syria.

Tha's just today right? Because I see running totals in the several hundreds, maybe over a thousand, for the total in the recent troubles, for Syria alone.

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Fair&Balanced Operations Operative Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 495	Sure, if you say so and if you believe it is relevant to the Arab spring uprisings.

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