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Old 06-14-2011, 05:33 PM   #1
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I was probably one of a half-dozen people across the country who watched the first Republican Presidential Candidate Debate in New Hampshire on Monday.

I was rather pleased when Ron Paul said something I'd been saying about marriage (not just gay) for years ... the state needs to be out of the marriage business. It's a religious contract. Churches should be able to hitch whomever (with legal ability to consent) they want.
The problem with Paul's position is that it does not address the numerous legal rights associated with marriage, which is also the problem with some states domestic partner laws.
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Old 06-14-2011, 07:02 PM   #2
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The problem with Paul's position is that it does not address the numerous legal rights associated with marriage,
Of two organizations involved in marriage - only government is necessary. Many are forgoing a church ceremony. A civil ceremony is sufficient. A church wedding is only a thrill. Reason for a party. A celebration. Has no other relevance. Any politician saying otherwise is, well, the Church ordered American politicians to impose Church doctrine on all Americans. Says how much respect that Church really deserves. Made even more damning because that Church all but condoned pedophilia.

Any religion imposing their political agenda on marriage is promoting contempt for principles defined by the American Constitution. A church is only a consultant. Religion is 100% about a relationship between one human and his god. The church can advise. And, as a consultant, must concede or agree with the views of any person. Consultants have no right to impose their views on anyone else. A concept so deeply embedded in fundamental American principles that this post should not even be necessary.

Nobody needs a church wedding. But marriage must be defined by civil structures.

I keep posting these concepts. And still cannot get excommunicated. What does it take to get on the Pope's hate list?

Government must be in the marriage business. Organized religion does not.
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Old 06-17-2011, 09:42 AM   #3
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... Any politician saying otherwise is, well, the Church ordered American politicians to impose Church doctrine on all Americans. Says how much respect that Church really deserves. Made even more damning because that Church all but condoned pedophilia.....
"Church" or "the church", does not, or at least should not, mean Roman Catholic.
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