Congress has lost its mind...

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No, Really? "Teabaggers"? Really? How the hell could a minority group have the government they deserve? How does that work?

You don't need to go all coy on me, Merc. There's plenty of examples of substantial minority groups swinging a party by its tail. A recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll showed 35% of potential voters support the Tea Party and they favor the Republicans by 84% - That's a nice little chunk of the vote as shown by the 2010 elections when Tea Party-endorsed candidates upset established Republicans in several primaries, such as Alaska, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Nevada, New York, South Carolina and Utah. (I got my stats from Wikipedia if anyone cares.)

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Get off your high horse. God damm Dems are no better. They ran up the credit cards exponentially in the last few years and now want everyone to figure out how to pay for it. And the rest of the sane people have asked at every boondoggle of a BS spending bill passed, "How are you going to pay for it?". Obamacare is a perfect example, the Dems and Obama played smoke and mirrors with the costs and how it was going to "pay for itself", what hose shit. They fudged the numbers to the GAO to make it look like a bed of roses, everybody gets what they want..... it will break the bank. The Stimulus package! "Hundreds of Thousands of Shovel Ready Jobs", more BS, unemployment rate still above 9% and no end in site. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid OWN it.. Downgrading of US for the first time in history! Obama and the Dems own it... The Republickins have their share, but they don't OWN it like the Dems do, not by a long shot. Guess we will see in 2012.... How'd that work out for the Dems in 2010?

No thanks. I like the view from up here. The feeling of deja vu is interesting too. This stuff has only been argued about a million times before on this forum with no one's mind changed one iota. All, I'll say is that by refusing to pay taxes like any other responsible citizens would, the tea flavored Republicans are just as much at fault or more than the democrats.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by SamIam

All, I'll say is that by refusing to pay taxes like any other responsible citizens would, the tea flavored Republicans are just as much at fault or more than the democrats.

You mean the 47% of Americans that don't pay Federal Income tax? All, I'll say is that by refusing to pay taxes like any other responsible citizens would, the Demoncrats who cry out that they want every entitlement under the sun are just as much at fault or more than the republickins, as long as they don't have to pay for it, we call them Zero Liability Voters.

And now they are just "tea flavored" not as you call them "Teabaggers"? Why the change of heart?

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Demoncrats

You really should stop using the term 'Demoncrat'. It undercuts any rational argument you attempt to make.

That being said, I am envious since even if I were so inclined to retaliate, which I am not, I cannot think up a similar term for Republicans.

Resnublicans?

Reflublicans?

Repub-asslicans?

GOP is a bit easier:

Bland-old-party

[Spexxvet]

rePUBICans.

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

rePUBICans.

Darn. Completely missed that one. So much better than my ideas.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by richlevy

You really should stop using the term 'Demoncrat'. It undercuts any rational argument you attempt to make.

That being said, I am envious since even if I were so inclined to retaliate, which I am not, I cannot think up a similar term for Republicans.

Resnublicans?

Reflublicans?

Repub-asslicans?

GOP is a bit easier:

Bland-old-party

I am equal opportunity user of the term Demoncrat as I call Republicans Republickins!

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You mean the 47% of Americans that don't pay Federal Income tax?

Let's see. You state %47 of Americans. You do not state 47% of adult Americans. I am refraining from checking your figure on Snopes at this point through an extreme act of will.

So first let me state that I consider the fact that the government is not taxing my 2-year-old grandson to be something of a victory.

Also, there is not much point at taxing people at the poverty level, since any money you have to take away from them would have to be returned to them in the form of assistance, at least until some people are finished completely shredding the safety net.

I agree the fact that there is such a large percentage of people who do not pay taxes is disturbing, but for a different reason. This is a symptom of the larger problem which is a wealth distribution system that has become more and more dysfunctional in the past few decades. With unrealistic tax cuts, we have stolen from the public treasury to enrich a small segment of our population at the expense of everyone else. This should not be possible in a democracy unless you are able to find a large enough number of people who are willing to vote against their collective self-interest in a fiscally sound government. The Republicans have found a way to do so.

If you don't like the %47 number, become a Democrat and find a way to help them become richer.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by richlevy

Let's see. You state %47 of Americans. You do not state 47% of adult Americans. I am refraining from checking your figure on Snopes at this point through an extreme act of will.

So first let me state that I consider the fact that the government is not taxing my 2-year-old grandson to be something of a victory.

Well thank God for that.

Also, there is not much point at taxing people at the poverty level, since any money you have to take away from them would have to be returned to them in the form of assistance, at least until some people are finished completely shredding the safety net.

Agreed.

I agree the fact that there is such a large percentage of people who do not pay taxes is disturbing, but for a different reason. This is a symptom of the larger problem which is a wealth distribution system that has become more and more dysfunctional in the past few decades. With unrealistic tax cuts, we have stolen from the public treasury to enrich a small segment of our population at the expense of everyone else. This should not be possible in a democracy unless you are able to find a large enough number of people who are willing to vote against their collective self-interest in a fiscally sound government. The Republicans have found a way to do so.

This is a Republic, not a democracy. This focus on wealth distribution is a problem because unless you plan to forcibly take money legally earned through the capitalistic model of the Free Market you would have to be going against the very essence of our Constitution. A simple change in our current tax structure would solve many of our problems.

If you don't like the %47 number, become a Democrat and find a way to help them become richer.

No, they are as evil as the Republickin's and rely on victimhood to keep them in office.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You mean the 47% of Americans that don't pay Federal Income tax?

Stewart used this graphic Thursday night. To paraphrase, the reason they have no skin in the game is that they have no skin. They do however continue to pay non-payroll taxes.