Wall Street Protests

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by tw

Does not matter if it is a car breakdown, economic malaise, or war. In every case, a problem must always be defined before any solution can be discussed, implemented, or advocated.

For example, why are so many losing their jobs? That problem is based (in part) in an answer to a simple question. What is the purpose of a business? To many, a profit? Then jobs get destroyed. Profit is the purpose of the mafia and other organizations that destroy jobs and nations. Jobs are only created when the product is the purpose of a business. When innovation exists. Profits only exist when industry leaders worry about the product (ie innovation); not about profits. When industry leaders define as corrupt what business schools teach.

If the purpose is a profit, then no profits exist. If the purpose is the product, then a reward (profits) exists. Then jobs are created. So many are so corrupt as to advocate what is taught in the business schools. Make a profit. Screw everyone else.

If that fundamental problem is not first defined, then forget about anyone providing a solution. A person who solves problems first identifies the problem and what created it.

Long before anyone can create a solution, first this and other problems must be defined. We used money games to create jobs four and ten years ago. History repeatedly teaches what happens next. Massive job losses. Therein lays the problem. So many so hate the nation as to want to make job losses even larger. They want even more tax cuts. A perfect example of people who have solutions by ignoring what is and has created the problem.

Well, there's nothing wrong with making a profit. The problem occurs when companies and CEO's get into the "its never enough" mindset. The problem occurs when profit is worshiped to the exclusion of all else. The problem occurs when the end justifies the means, no matter how immoral or destructive to society at large those means usually are.

I don't think its a matter of the corps or CEO's "hating" the nation. They are indifferent to the nation. All that matters is money which buys power which allows for grabbing more money, etc. The nation and its people are just things which must be manipulated, stepped over or stepped on in the quest for "more". But a CEO doesn't hate the American people any more than you or I might hate an ant we happen to step on.

@ Zen - Good one!

[tw]

Originally Posted by SamIam

I don't think its a matter of the corps or CEO's "hating" the nation. They are indifferent to the nation.

The world is ternary. Hate, love, and indifference have a difference meaning when you job is to work for your employees. And when the companies purpose is the advancement of the nation and mankind.

Indifference is a total deregard - the definition of hate - towards your charges. You may not like the term. But it applies.

Nobody said profits are bad. If a company is making products that advance the nation and mankind, then the company is probably making a profit. If a company is not making profits, then the company and its products are not doing what they should. One need only view 2008 Ford and GM to observe those 'night and day' differences.

Profit is the reward. Anybody can buy Olympic medals. Those medals are not the purpose of mankind. Winning the race - pushing out the envelope - doing what no man has done before ... that is the purpose of the race. The medals, like profits, are only the reward.

Most usually hear this concept for the first time. Most of us are so brainwashed by business school doctrine as to believe the purpose of a company is its profits. Want to see the first reason for our economic malaise? Many of use need to first look in the mirror. Or learn what the true purpose of all companies (profit, non-profit, NGO, etc) really is.

Problems are not solved until the problem is first defined. And that include top management. If indifferent to their responsibility, then that is a hate that also creates the resulting economic harm. That same attitude is found in the Mafia's wise guys.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by SamIam

Well, there's nothing wrong with making a profit. The problem occurs when companies and CEO's get into the "its never enough" mindset. The problem occurs when profit is worshiped to the exclusion of all else. The problem occurs when the end justifies the means, no matter how immoral or destructive to society at large those means usually are.

I don't think its a matter of the corps or CEO's "hating" the nation. They are indifferent to the nation. All that matters is money which buys power which allows for grabbing more money, etc. The nation and its people are just things which must be manipulated, stepped over or stepped on in the quest for "more". But a CEO doesn't hate the American people any more than you or I might hate an ant we happen to step on.

Well I am quite sure these protests are going to put a stop to all of that!

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well I am quite sure these protests are going to put a stop to all of that!

Eric Cantor, the Republican majority leader, also expressed the same contempt for Americans who now suffering due to his political agenda, trickle down econmics (also called voodoo economic), Misson Accomplished, and other lies.

Eric Cantor is also most cited for subverting any compromise to solve economic problems. His attitude towards the American worker is similar to TheMercenary's. It's their own fault.