Asians checking "white" as college entrance strategy - Page 2

Aliantha · 12-04-2011, 08:30 PM

I'm not sure what you mean classic, but my response to that would be that if asian students do so much better than 'white' (and I use inverted comas because I think the term white is highly subjective anyway) students, then maybe white students need to have a look at why.

classicman · 12-04-2011, 08:40 PM

I was actually referring to job application tests where Caucasians who scored higher than non-caucasians still were not hired because of minority quotas that had to be filled.

Aliantha · 12-04-2011, 08:42 PM

OH yeah, well that's not fair either.

Lamplighter · 12-04-2011, 09:49 PM

Then too, there are the non-whites who score higher than the whites.

And throughout their career they are believed to be less qualified,
and are getting the degree or job only as part of an alleged quota system.

Classic, I believe you have better ideas than this one.

classicman · 12-04-2011, 10:05 PM

I never implied it was a one way situation.

Cyber Wolf · 12-04-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

As Jim said, I don't see what the hell the relevance is. It's outright racism to discriminate against any applicant based on what they look like. Students should be protesting this instead of some of the other shit stupid things they protest about.

Students are protesting it. This was in the news as recently as ~2 months ago.

regular.joe · 12-05-2011, 01:04 AM

I am truly looking forward to a time when we will be Americans, at least here in the United States. Then we will not have to fill quotas based on what we look like, or where we grew up.

The way I see it, the more we call attention to our differences...the more we call attention to our differences.

DanaC · 12-05-2011, 04:32 AM

But the reason you're calling attention to your differences is because there was a grotesue disparity in opportunity and life chances between 'whites' and other ethnic groups.

For all the inherent unfairnesses in the positive discrimination systems, they have served to ameliorate some of the worst excesses of institutional racism which underpinned society at the time those systems were devised. However unfair and grotesque the anomalies thrown up by those systems (such as the highly qualified white man passed over in favour of a less qualified asian man) they barely shake the dish on that side of the scales compared to the weight of unfairness that existed, and some would argue still exists in large part on the other side.

infinite monkey · 12-05-2011, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Then too, there are the non-whites who score higher than the whites.

And throughout their career they are believed to be less qualified,
and are getting the degree or job only as part of an alleged quota system.

Oh yeah, like women.

Lamplighter · 12-05-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber Wolf

Students are protesting it. This was in the news as recently as ~2 months ago.

This article belongs in The Proud Parent Thread.

Spexxvet · 12-05-2011, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by regular.joe

I am truly looking forward to a time when we will be Americans, at least here in the United States. Then we will not have to fill quotas based on what we look like, or where we grew up.

The way I see it, the more we call attention to our differences...the more we call attention to our differences.

I'm looking forward to a time when we will be Earthlings.

Spexxvet · 12-05-2011, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

I was actually referring to job application tests where Caucasians who scored higher than non-caucasians still were not hired because of minority quotas that had to be filled.

Unfortunately, it's so much more common for the good-old-white-boy network to pass over a more qualified monority to give a job to a god-old-white-boy that these quotas are required. Yes, they are STILL required.

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

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Do you get more help if you're a torees Bi islander?

SamIam · 12-05-2011, 10:25 AM

Racism in this country is far from dead. It has just gone underground. For example, I have been told not to rent a room to anyone from Towaoc or Ignacio. These two towns are on the Ute reservation and are inhabited almost exclusively by Native Americans. We can't say "no Utes", but we can do the next best thing. This policy pisses me off so much that not only do I rent rooms to Utes from anywhere, I also give them the cheaper business rate.

If anyone asks me about this, I just say "They looked hispanic to me."

footfootfoot · 12-05-2011, 10:36 AM

You are all racists and you are ignoring me because I come from the Aleutian Islands.

infinite monkey · 12-05-2011, 10:45 AM

You Unangans all look alike! You're a swarthy, ruddy people.

12-04-2011, 08:30 PM	#16
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I'm not sure what you mean classic, but my response to that would be that if asian students do so much better than 'white' (and I use inverted comas because I think the term white is highly subjective anyway) students, then maybe white students need to have a look at why. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

12-04-2011, 08:40 PM	#17
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I was actually referring to job application tests where Caucasians who scored higher than non-caucasians still were not hired because of minority quotas that had to be filled. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

12-04-2011, 08:42 PM	#18
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	OH yeah, well that's not fair either. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

12-04-2011, 10:05 PM	#20
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I never implied it was a one way situation. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

12-05-2011, 01:04 AM	#22
regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	I am truly looking forward to a time when we will be Americans, at least here in the United States. Then we will not have to fill quotas based on what we look like, or where we grew up. The way I see it, the more we call attention to our differences...the more we call attention to our differences. __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.

12-04-2011, 09:49 PM	#19
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Then too, there are the non-whites who score higher than the whites. And throughout their career they are believed to be less qualified, and are getting the degree or job only as part of an alleged quota system. Classic, I believe you have better ideas than this one.

12-05-2011, 10:25 AM	#28
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	Racism in this country is far from dead. It has just gone underground. For example, I have been told not to rent a room to anyone from Towaoc or Ignacio. These two towns are on the Ute reservation and are inhabited almost exclusively by Native Americans. We can't say "no Utes", but we can do the next best thing. This policy pisses me off so much that not only do I rent rooms to Utes from anywhere, I also give them the cheaper business rate. If anyone asks me about this, I just say "They looked hispanic to me."

12-05-2011, 10:36 AM	#29
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	You are all racists and you are ignoring me because I come from the Aleutian Islands. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

12-05-2011, 10:45 AM	#30
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	You Unangans all look alike! You're a swarthy, ruddy people.

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