My guy can beat your guy...

Lamplighter · 01-24-2012, 04:43 PM

The State of the Union address will be delivered by the President tonight at 9 pm EST.
The pundits are saying Obama will use this as an opportunity to deliver more of a campaign speech than the traditional address.
If so, this will be the beginning of the 2012 Presidential campaign, and perhaps deserves of a new thread.

And besides all that:

Sadly, Stephen Colbert has suspended his campaign, so now it's
just between my guy and the Republican (

) candidates.

classicman · 01-24-2012, 04:48 PM

My guy ~~can~~ will beat your guy...

ftfy

piercehawkeye45 · 01-24-2012, 04:53 PM

Wrong!

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/polit...-romney/47793/

classicman · 01-24-2012, 08:37 PM

huh? Who is gonna beat O?

piercehawkeye45 · 01-24-2012, 10:47 PM

No one.

tw · 01-24-2012, 11:03 PM

From what I hear (I did not watch it), Congress did not like the cheerleading and scolding that was well deserved. Congressmen promoted by Limbaugh, et al were told to make America fail so that Obama would fail. That has been the Congressional mandate especially this last two years.

It was a reporters observation. Congressmen do not leave as fast as they did this time. Because Obama told them what patriotic Americans do. And what Congress is not doing.

HungLikeJesus · 01-24-2012, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

huh? Who is gonna beat O?

J?

classicman · 01-25-2012, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

My guy ~~can~~ will beat your guy...
ftfy

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Wrong!

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/polit...-romney/47793/

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

huh? Who is gonna beat O?

Quote:

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

No one.

That was my point.

infinite monkey · 01-25-2012, 07:47 AM

OBAMA ROCKS IT!

Makes me proud to be an American again.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-25-2012, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

That was my point.

I know. I was being sarcastic when I said wrong. The article I posted basically says that both Romney and Gingrich have disapproval ratings above 50%. Continuing at this pace, Obama just has to not mess up at this point.

classicman · 01-25-2012, 07:53 AM

Obama has to be the best public speaker that I've ever seen. Watching Mitch Daniels afterward was ... well just sad.
And Mitch Daniels is a good speaker as well.
Just not in the same class as O. I can see why many wanted him to run this year.
The other two, three or four still running have very little chance of doing anything.
This is totally O's to lose, and I just can't see that happening.

Lamplighter · 01-25-2012, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

OBAMA ROCKS IT!

Makes me proud to be an American again.

IM, great User Title

tw · 01-25-2012, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

This is totally O's to lose, and I just can't see that happening.

Only one president has been reelected when unemployment was this massive. Reagan. Many forget the economic mess when Reagan was reelected.

Most people vote based upon their feelings - ie how wealthy they feel. Therefore, as Clinton said, "its the economy stupid".

Most people, for example, forget a more than five plus years of pain necessary to fix it. Carter had interest rates rise massively to around 20% in the 1970s. Only then did jobs return in the mid-1980s. Most voter perspective is less than one year.

Reagan also kept saying how good things were even when they were not. That message is probably why Reagan is the only president relected when unemployment was massive.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-25-2012, 06:17 PM

Plus Walter Mondale did stupid stuff....like tell the truth.

Lamplighter · 01-25-2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tw

<snip>

Most people, for example, forget a more than five plus years of pain necessary to fix it.
Carter had interest rates rise massively to around 20% in the 1970s. Only then did jobs return in the mid-1980s.
Most voter perspective is less than one year.

Reagan also kept saying how good things were even when they were not.
That message is probably why Reagan is the only president relected when unemployment was massive.

I've always felt sorry for Carter... so many things were out of his control.
Iran hostages, Oil embargo, S&L crisis, gas prices doubled, 3-mile island.
And so... unemployment and interest rates went up.

Reagan had nothing except and movie-star smile and 2 lines:
"There you go again" and "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago"

.

01-24-2012, 04:43 PM	#1
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	My guy can beat your guy... The State of the Union address will be delivered by the President tonight at 9 pm EST. The pundits are saying Obama will use this as an opportunity to deliver more of a campaign speech than the traditional address. If so, this will be the beginning of the 2012 Presidential campaign, and perhaps deserves of a new thread. And besides all that: Sadly, Stephen Colbert has suspended his campaign, so now it's just between my guy and the Republican ( ) candidates.

01-24-2012, 04:48 PM	#2
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	My guy ~~can~~ will beat your guy... ftfy __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-24-2012, 04:53 PM	#3
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Wrong! http://www.theatlanticwire.com/polit...-romney/47793/ __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

01-24-2012, 08:37 PM	#4
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	huh? Who is gonna beat O? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-24-2012, 10:47 PM	#5
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	No one. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

01-24-2012, 11:03 PM	#6
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	From what I hear (I did not watch it), Congress did not like the cheerleading and scolding that was well deserved. Congressmen promoted by Limbaugh, et al were told to make America fail so that Obama would fail. That has been the Congressional mandate especially this last two years. It was a reporters observation. Congressmen do not leave as fast as they did this time. Because Obama told them what patriotic Americans do. And what Congress is not doing.

01-25-2012, 07:47 AM	#9
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	OBAMA ROCKS IT! Makes me proud to be an American again.

01-25-2012, 07:53 AM	#11
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Obama has to be the best public speaker that I've ever seen. Watching Mitch Daniels afterward was ... well just sad. And Mitch Daniels is a good speaker as well. Just not in the same class as O. I can see why many wanted him to run this year. The other two, three or four still running have very little chance of doing anything. This is totally O's to lose, and I just can't see that happening. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt Last edited by classicman; 01-25-2012 at 08:01 AM.

01-25-2012, 06:17 PM	#14
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Plus Walter Mondale did stupid stuff....like tell the truth. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

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