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Old 02-26-2012, 09:53 AM   #4
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On the other hand this is the USA and we have a very different cultural identity, as Americans, from Muslims.
Being a resident in the US or having a green card, or even being a citizen, is not really the same thing as being an American, in my view.
Being an American means having some skin in the game, embracing the values of your (new) country
--not trying to get other Americans to change themselves to suit you.
There is always a problem trying to say what is American.
"as Americans, from Muslims" is a nationality versus a religion.
A lot of Americans are Christian, and a lot of Muslims are Americans
...and a lot of Jews are .... and a lot of ... and a lot... and a ... and...
It becomes meaningless.

A lot of people want to believe America is Christian,
but that's just another wedge issue to divide one group from another.

Likewise, the business of "not trying to get other Americans to change themselves"
is, in my mind, either meaningless, or one of the true characteristics of politics.
Of course, everyone tries to get others to change to suit themselves.

Back to the OP trial, compare the zombie Mohammad with the Westboro Baptist Church (religion),
or burning the American flag or burning a draft card in the 60's (politics)
... it's all pretty much the same stuff..a belief that "my way is better".
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