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			 Radical Centrist 
			
			
			
			Join Date: Jan 2001 
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				Well that's that
			 
			
			
			J announced that she's moving out. She's tired of being mad at me all the time. We're too different, she says, and she doesn't want to ask me to change because that's not fair. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	We are lucky in that we never actually got married. Perhaps there was an inkling in us that it wasn't really exactly right. But that's not it. I'm done with relationships for a while. Ah, you know, maybe four-five months until I get my shit together. Although maybe I shouldn't get my shit together because when we started it appeared that I had my shit together and that fake front appearance is attractive. Until they find the truth is you don't have your shit together and then they can just be mad at you all the time. This is horrible, but I feel like at least I have some experience at it.  | 
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			 To shreds, you say? 
			
			
			
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			Sorry to hear that, UT. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			That'll teach you to try and get your shit together. I am taking the approach of "No, my shit isn't together and that's how I plan to keep things, unless I change my mind, in which case you are still not invited to comment on, nor police my behavior in any way." Then they can be mad at me or not, but then I am not misleading them anymore. Her: "You never exercise." Me: "And...? Your point is...?" Her: "Are you having a third beer?" Me: "Of course. I have to have a third beer before I can have a fourth beer. You can't just skip a beer. Duh." 
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			 still says videotape 
			
			
			
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			Sorry dude.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			 Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian 
			
			
			
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			I'm sorry, UT. No matter what/why/how, it's lousy to go through. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Take care. 
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			 Encroaching on your decrees 
			
			
			
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			I'm sorry UT. Big hugs to you. We love you shit-an'all <3
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			 UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION 
			
			
			
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			Aw, man. Sorry this is happening to you. There's no one in the world who has their shit together, I think.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			What Clodfobble said.  NOBODY has their shit together and if they say they do they are lying.  Personally, I can have it together for brief moments in time but a butterfly wing flapping in Brazil can eff it up for me.   
		
		
		
		
		
		
			The good news is that there can be great peace in loving yourself and cultivating your own garden (so to speak). Be good to yourself. You're all you've got. 
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			 polaroid of perfection 
			
			
			
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			Oh my god UT. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			I am so sorry. Bet it hurts like hell. Here's to feeling less shitty every week that passes. Or every month. Or every year, depending how fucked up you are on a scale of one to ten. I didn't include decades as I'm sure you're not as fucked up as me. Thoughts with you. 
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			I'm sorry UT.  Nobody has their shit together. Some just fake it better than others.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			 We have to go back, Kate! 
			
			
			
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			Well, shit. Sorry you're going through it Tony. *hugs*
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			 The future is unwritten 
			
			
			
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			Well fuck.  
		
		
		
			![]() I know you're hurting, I'm sure J is too. It's double bad when you care about each other, but can't be together without making more hurt. 
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			 I hear them call the tide 
			
			
			
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			WTAS...... Nobody has their shit together.  Except maybe the anal retentives, and then it's together in a bad place....... 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			How long were you together? F3 -the beer comment ...perfect. 
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			 Radical Centrist 
			
			
			
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			8 years
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			 a beautiful fool 
			
			
			
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			Wow. That means I have known you for 9. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Sorry, ute. 3 months, and 30 lbs from now, you will start to be exited about life again. Not that that helps now. Sorry to you too, Jaq. I hope you two will stay friendly. •spoken in to my phone 
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			 When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? 
			
			
			
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			Just got the news, Toad.  So sorry to hear, both for you and for J.  I will be sending the appropriate juju your way for you to land as solidly on your feet as I did when Selene and I ended things.  Peace and hugs, man.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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