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Old 08-08-2012, 07:45 PM   #1
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Let's face it, that "significant minority" (ie tea bag fanatics) willfully believes that anyone to the left of Mussolini is an illegitimate, evil Sikh who opposes the flag, apple pie, and Mom. Not to mention the right of all large financial institutions or other giant corporate entities to lie, steal and be bailed out by the American working man (and woman) with not a single CEO never ever being held responsible. It's the American way after all. No one ''makes" this lunatic fringe believe anything. They've known it all along.

Pssst! Not only is the President illegitimate, he's a colored man.
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:07 AM   #2
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It seems like Romney is running on little else than rich people pay enough taxes and repeal Romney Obamacare. That being the case, his tax payments or lack thereof are open season. I'm no Harry Reid fan but he is playing this exactly right.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:53 AM   #3
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I agree that what Reid di was wrong. I hate anonymous sourcees stories.

However, Romney DOES need to release his tax statements just like every other candidate has done.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:14 PM   #4
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Romney is one of the most secretive characters to run for president since the days of Richard Nixon. Romney is obviously covering up questionable acts or even out right malfeasance. If the man didn't have something to hide, the Romney campaign would release his tax records going back to kindergarten and gleefully shout, "See? Pure as the driven snow just like Moroni wants us to be."

The silence is damning.

Plus, Romney has been quoted more than once stating that he will not go into detail on any proposed policy changes he might make if elected to the White House. Why is that you may ask?

Well, Virginia that's a very good question. Romney answers it by coming right out and admitting that if he told the truth about what he plans to do, it would turn many voters against him.

At least he admits to that much.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:35 PM   #5
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If the man didn't have something to hide, the Romney campaign would release his tax records going back to kindergarten and gleefully shout, "See? Pure as the driven snow just like Moroni wants us to be."
However, what may be "pure" for the elite upper class may not be "pure" for the rest of us.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:46 PM   #6
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Romney is one of the most secretive characters to run for president since the days of Richard Nixon. Romney is obviously covering up questionable acts or even out right malfeasance. If the man didn't have something to hide, the Romney campaign would release his tax records going back to kindergarten and gleefully shout, "See? Pure as the driven snow just like Moroni wants us to be."

The silence is damning.

Plus, Romney has been quoted more than once stating that he will not go into detail on any proposed policy changes he might make if elected to the White House. Why is that you may ask?

Well, Virginia that's a very good question. Romney answers it by coming right out and admitting that if he told the truth about what he plans to do, it would turn many voters against him.

At least he admits to that much.
1) As a matter of fact, Romney has released the tax records required. He does not want to release more than that, because he knows that the democrats would continue to make up "something" in his return, to use as political ammunition.

The MOST secretive president has been Obama, since he had all his previous academic records sealed, from every college he went to, (three), as well as his work records for every job he's ever held, before becoming a senator. You may recall that even his long form birth certificate, was sealed!

If you know Romney, you know one thing - he's an honest guy. A typical "let me talk out this side of my mouth today, and the other side tomorrow", politician, he is not.

2) What Romney will do as president, is in large part determined by:

a) The events at that time. If Iran and Israel go to war, and the rest of the middle east joins in, that will change Romney's actions.

As Mr. Lincoln stated once "I freely confess that I have not controlled events, but it is the events that have controlled me." (loosely quoted I'm sure).

b) What Romney can do depends on what party is in control of the House of Rep., and the Senate. That all important make up will not be known until AFTER the election, of course.

c) Obama's biggest failure is the economy, and the way he has spent trillions of dollars we don't have, to try and fix it - which has not worked. His budgets have been so bad, that NO ONE (NOT ONE) senator would vote for it, in either of the last two years.

This is the worst recovery we've ever had, in the US.

Knowing this, Romney has no need to give a detailed "what I will do as president" list. He needs to keep his own counsel right now, so the democrats have very little to "chew on" and maybe "swiftboat" him with.

To put it succinctly, in Romney, we have a stellar businessman, who not only clearly knows how businesses work, but how to rescue them, as well.

We've never had a smarter businessman/politician, as president. You can say all you want about Obama's policies, but the area he worked in as a community organizer in Chicago, is in fact, poorer and more crime ridden today, with lower educational attainment, than it was 20 years ago.

If America decides to be a more socialist country, then we need to FIRST make some important changes to our country - and in our attitudes - something like what Germany has done. (Germany is a very successful, but somewhat socialist, country). Otherwise, we will wind up on the slag heap like Spain, France, Italy, Greece, etc., which are all going broke.

As Margaret Thatcher once quipped" Socialism works great, until the money runs out." (again, loosely quoted, I'm sure).

Obama's thrust has seemingly been to help the poor - but we have more people on welfare programs now, than ever before. He can tax the rich until they're wearing rain barrels for clothes, but that will NOT fix a $58,000 per second *DEBT*, that we are currently running up. Won't really make a big dent in it. All that "tax the filthy rich" stuff is 99% "look at this!, so you won't look at my stinking record".

Because Obama can't possibly run on his record. By his very own standards he has given us, he has failed. He and Jimmy Carter (another very decent human being who had no idea of how to run a federal government), are two of the worst presidents, in modern U.S. history. (Wearing sweaters inside and turning the thermostat down to 68 degree's (a Jimmy Carter idea), will not give us the energy we need to run our factories and our manufacturing businesses.)

And they can't run on wind or solar energy, at this time. Alternative energy still (even after hundreds of billions of investment dollars), amount to less than 10% of our energy needs.

Should Mitt be elected, you'll see how swiftly the economy will start REALLY recovering. Having lived through several bust and boom cycles, I can tell you it's fun to watch it sprouting up like a wonderful weed, and the smiles it puts on everyone's face.

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Old 09-06-2012, 11:21 AM   #7
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If you know Romney, you know one thing - he's an honest guy. A typical "let me talk out this side of my mouth today, and the other side tomorrow", politician, he is not.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:32 PM   #8
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If you know Romney, you know one thing - he's an honest guy. A typical "let me talk out this side of my mouth today, and the other side tomorrow", politician, he is not..
That's right, Romney will even put it in writing....on his etch-a-sketch.

Seriously, he has flipped on more major issues than any other candidate I can remember. Mr. "I'm a moderate Republican" meets Mr. "I'm so conservative I only sleep on the right side of the bed". When he was pandering to the right in the primary, I was half expecting him to drop a dime to the INS on his household staff to make his right wing bones on immigration policy.
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Old 09-07-2012, 09:39 PM   #9
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2002 - Pro choice
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Now that's a man you can rely on to stick to his convictions!
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:23 AM   #10
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That's right, Romney will even put it in writing....on his etch-a-sketch.

Seriously, he has flipped on more major issues than any other candidate I can remember. Mr. "I'm a moderate Republican" meets Mr. "I'm so conservative I only sleep on the right side of the bed". When he was pandering to the right in the primary, I was half expecting him to drop a dime to the INS on his household staff to make his right wing bones on immigration policy.
Yes, Romney has flipped on several issues, but Massachusetts is a VERY liberal state, and that's where he was governor.

If you're a pragmatic person, and you believe in states rights, you will be more liberal as it's governor. You aren't just running your own agenda, you're being a true statesman.

So what has Obama flipped on?

*deficit spending
*reforming immigration
*closing Guantanamo Bay prison
*securing our Southern border

Fortunately, your Chicago politician has brought his filthy Chicago style politics to Pennsylvania Ave, so every state that tries to limit fraudulent voting by requiring picture ID, gets taken to court by his Justice Dept.

And everyone on his "Enemy's List", gets turned over to one of the investigative arms of his office - usually the IRS.

And every GM car dealer that was closed, when GM got into financial problems and had to be saved by the fed's, was a Republican party donor, except one black dealer.

Despite the objection by his commerce department, he lent over half a million dollars to a big supporter, to open a solar energy plant. Now they're bankrupt, of course. I wonder if our gov't will get their money back ?? Our money.

He says he's going to cut taxes for the middle class. Well, he's not, and his many tax "cuts" so far, have been from merely extending the Bush tax cuts, which he keeps trying to chip away at.

His spending will require, sooner or later, a large increase in taxes, and cuts in services. That tends to be how Socialism works - it's great until the money runs out. Then you're screwed.

Obama has taken over $716 million out of senior care, to help fund Obama care. Since Obama care allows companies to get exemptions from it, and 90+% of our largest companies have requested an exemption, Obama care is going to cost a LOT more than we were told.

Of course.

When the fact checkers are giving Obama "4 Pinnoccio's" for his lies while campaigning, you know that:

1) He's lying, big time, and

2) He can't run on his record of achievements, because he doesn't have anything worth a damn.

Now if he can just get enough people on welfare, and get them to stop looking for a job, he'll get this high unemployment problem, fixed right up!

His EPA is right on the ball however. They wanted to ban plywood and oriented strand board (which is used to make just about every building in the country, and EVERY home), because the glue they use produces some volatile gases.

So what should we use to build with? EPA has no idea, and doesn't care. Any studies to show the way it's used is harmful? Nope. They just decided it was bad. Finally, had to be told to stop the nonsense when the recession hit the housing market so bad.

Now the EPA wants to have every puddle of water, treated like it's a lake or river, and require an environmental report, if a truck drives through the puddle of water. Any idea what an environmental impact report costs? You can kiss the timber industry good bye if this becomes law. They could never afford such nonsense.

But hey! We're the EPA, and we make the law, with no interference from anyone else except the President, hey hey!
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