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Old 09-24-2012, 05:24 AM   #1
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If the people want to go socialism, I have no problem with it. I don't believe it works well, but I KNOW you can't just grab some highly socialistic laws, and start shoving them down our throat, the way Obama has. You want to change to a national health care system, fine. I'm for it!

First, study what other countries have done, and let's get the best parts into our own, and leave out the parts that didn't work well. Second, do a pilot study in a state or region, and prove that it works. THEN, write up the federal laws, and enact it. Don't shove a 2,000+ page law at us, with no time to study it - or even READ it through, and say "we'll pass it now, and read it later".
I think that's quite a fair point actually.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:08 PM   #2
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Sure, it's logical and practical. It's also impossible in a society where the Drug, Insurance, and Medical Device industries, own so many politicians.
The ONLY way it can happen is the way it did, making huge concessions to those industries, then slowly chipping away at those concessions until the plan is the best it can be. In the mean time, although not the best, millions more have at least some coverage.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:30 AM   #3
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Sure, it's logical and practical. It's also impossible in a society where the Drug, Insurance, and Medical Device industries, own so many politicians.
The ONLY way it can happen is the way it did, making huge concessions to those industries, then slowly chipping away at those concessions until the plan is the best it can be. In the mean time, although not the best, millions more have at least some coverage.
The problem is, with our current stupidity of paying 2-10X what Canada pays for the very same drugs, you run the whole program into the red, and convince even more people, that the whole idea is a terrible one.

It doesn't have to be that way. There may be more expedient idea's for getting the cart of a National Health Plan moving, but when you're relying on horsepower, it's important to remember to put the horse BEFORE the cart, and not after it.

It isn't just WHAT you do, it's the order you do them in that's important, as well.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:31 AM   #4
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I think that's quite a fair point actually.
You don't have to sound SO surprised.
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