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Old 10-05-2012, 03:21 PM   #1
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelb...mative-action/

This should be interesting. Republicans/conservatives typically support big business and the military, and want Affirmative Action gone. The military and big business want Affirmative Action intact. I wonder how it'll shake out.
What IS "affirmative action"?

It's painted with a brush of "fairness", but affirmative action is also discrimination, and I so much wish we'd move away from all that CRAP.

If someone is the best applicant for the job, and is a good employee (on time, doesn't yell at the customers, doesn't stink, etc.), then hire him or her. If they don't meet the above requirements, then don't hire them.

Putting up barriers to some races/ethnicities, and not doing it for others, is just wrong. In some professions, it has really wrought havoc (police and fire, for two examples). These were jobs that were both hotbeds of discrimination before the ruling for affirmative action, so no really easy answer presents itself. I just don't believe you will ever eliminate discrimination, by enacting reverse discrimination.
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Old 10-05-2012, 06:03 PM   #2
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I just don't believe you will ever eliminate discrimination, by enacting reverse discrimination.
I think this is apparent at this point. Yet, someone correct me if I'm wrong, I thought affirmative action was just suppose to be a transition phase between outright discrimination and equality?

Outright discrimination and racism in the pre-60's led to institutionalized inequalitiy and, in general, blacks did not stand an chance against whites in gaining jobs for this reason once the civil rights act was passed. Therefore, affirmative action was suppose to help the current generation, at that time, while "equality" was supposed to help the next generation and affirmative action could be phased out.

It just so happened that inequality, which has roots in power, doesn't just disappear if we pass a law and we never got to the "point" where affirmative action could be phased not. Now it seems we are just in a racial limbo phase where we can't just stop affirmative action due to social inequalities but we know it is not an overall temporary solution.

This is also an issue that where personal stories are all over the place (very good and very bad) but it is hard to generalize the overall effect.
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