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Old 10-15-2012, 09:00 AM   #1
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I must admit, over here we all get the giggleshits when American pundits refer to Obama as a 'socialist'.
The GOP can't use "communist" to scare voters any more, so the new boogeyman is a "socialist".
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:54 PM   #2
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The GOP can't use "communist" to scare voters any more, so the new boogeyman is a "socialist".
Then how would you describe him, to an American? He's MUCH MORE left than a "liberal" has normally been described. I agree he's obviously not a communist.

I like the term "statist", because he's trying to move the fed state, into every part of our lives.

And I don't WANT the state into every aspect of my life. That requires a LOT of tax money to support it, and THAT leaves me with both little money, and little freedom.

Does "little money" and "little freedom" sound like something you want?
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:03 PM   #3
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Then how would you describe him, to an American? He's MUCH MORE left than a "liberal" has normally been described. I agree he's obviously not a communist.

I like the term "statist", because he's trying to move the fed state, into every part of our lives.

And I don't WANT the state into every aspect of my life. That requires a LOT of tax money to support it, and THAT leaves me with both little money, and little freedom.

Does "little money" and "little freedom" sound like something you want?
He's not the one trying to put the state into womens' bodies.
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:17 PM   #4
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Then how would you describe him, to an American? He's MUCH MORE left than a "liberal" has normally been described. I agree he's obviously not a communist.
MUCH LESS left than a liberal.
Center to center right. It's hard to think of something he's proposed or done that wasn't proposed or done by the moderate Republicans of yesteryear. The Overton window strategy has worked; Obama's a big disappointment to liberals, but he'll get the votes because in every way Obama failed them, Romney's worse.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:24 PM   #5
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MUCH LESS left than a liberal.
Center to center right. It's hard to think of something he's proposed or done that wasn't proposed or done by the moderate Republicans of yesteryear. The Overton window strategy has worked; Obama's a big disappointment to liberals, but he'll get the votes because in every way Obama failed them, Romney's worse.
Obama has stated that under his system of cap and trade, our electric rates "would necessarily skyrocket". He wants to also run all our coal fired electric power plants so "they would go bankrupt".

I call that VERY liberal.

But today, we have YET ANOTHER stimulus money being flushed down the shitter, to the tune of 249 Million Dollars!

Let's hear it for Obama's stimulus plan!!

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Battery maker A123 files for bankruptcy protection

By TOM KRISHER, AP Auto Writer – 5 hours ago

DETROIT (AP) — After years of struggling in the nascent market for electric cars, battery maker A123 Systems Inc. filed for bankruptcy protection Tuesday.

The filing drew criticism from Republicans who claim the Obama administration has wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on alternative energy companies like A123.

The company received a $249 million Department of Energy grant three years ago with high hopes that it would help foster a U.S. battery industry. At the time, the country was far behind the world leaders, Korea and China.
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WHEN, WHEN, WHEN, will Obama stop flushing our money, down the toilet, by the hundreds of millions of dollars?
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