The Philosophy of a True Conservative, Today

[xoxoxoBruce]

So anyone inventing a new widget, and starting a company to make them, will be immediately bigfooted by a corporation with paid for manufacturing capability and advertising network.

[Adak]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

So anyone inventing a new widget, and starting a company to make them, will be immediately bigfooted by a corporation with paid for manufacturing capability and advertising network.

Coke is a product that is VERY easy to imitate. Do you for one second believe you could compete with them, with your little start up soda brand?

I bet not!

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Adak

Coke is a product that is VERY easy to imitate. Do you for one second believe you could compete with them, with your little start up soda brand?

I bet not!

Bad, you pivoted to the complete opposite of the example I gave.

Seriously, liberals are naive and simple. They think people are always going to do the right things, act in the best way, etc.

Not really, but I understand why you think that.

Conservative thinkers like the economist Thomas Sowell and the Times columnist David Brooks have noted that the political right has a Tragic Vision of human nature, in which people are permanently limited in morality, knowledge and reason. Human beings are perennially tempted by aggression, which can be prevented only by the deterrence of a strong military, of citizens resolved to defend themselves and of the prospect of harsh criminal punishment. No central planner is wise or knowledgeable enough to manage an entire economy, which is better left to the invisible hand of the market, in which intelligence is distributed across a network of hundreds of millions of individuals implicitly transmitting information about scarcity and abundance through the prices they negotiate. Humanity is always in danger of backsliding into barbarism, so we should respect customs in sexuality, religion and public propriety, even if no one can articulate their rationale, because they are time-tested workarounds for our innate shortcomings. The left, in contrast, has a Utopian Vision, which emphasizes the malleability of human nature, puts customs under the microscope, articulates rational plans for a better society and seeks to implement them through public institutions.

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[Adak]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Bad, you pivoted to the complete opposite of the example I gave.

Not really, but I understand why you think [liberals are naive and simple].

Let me re-read your example.

Yes, liberals ARE naive and simple.. See it all the time. Liberals get mugged, battered, robbed - any kind of violent crime.

And right away, you have a new born conservative, who favors gun laws, and knows that gun control should mean a good sight picture as you bring up your firearm.

Yours is a sweet world, where priests never molest altar boys, and their Bishops never keep their mouths shut about it, and move the offending priests around to a new diocese, with no warning given about his past. And violent crime never happens, and all the nations of the world come together for harmonious relations, at the U.N.

I get it, really. It's a wonderful utopia - it's just not real.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Adak

Let me re-read your example.

Yes, liberals ARE naive and simple.. See it all the time. Liberals get mugged, battered, robbed - any kind of violent crime.

And right away, you have a new born conservative, who favors gun laws, and knows that gun control should mean a good sight picture as you bring up your firearm.

Yours is a sweet world, where priests never molest altar boys, and their Bishops never keep their mouths shut about it, and move the offending priests around to a new diocese, with no warning given about his past. And violent crime never happens, and all the nations of the world come together for harmonious relations, at the U.N.

I get it, really. It's a wonderful utopia - it's just not real.

Wow. I mean, just fucking wow. Wtf are you talking about?

That last line is the only one in the whole post that makes sense.

I get it, really. It's a wonderful utopia - it's just not real

No, you are absolutely correct, it is not real. It is a product of your imagination.

[Adak]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

So anyone inventing a new widget, and starting a company to make them, will be immediately bigfooted by a corporation with paid for manufacturing capability and advertising network.

Give me an example of this.

I'm not familiar with the term "bigfooted" and "paid for manufacturing capability and advertising network", leaves me with more questions than explanation.

Who's paying for the manufacturing and advertising? By bigfooted you mean stomped on?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Adak

Give me an example of this.

I'm not familiar with the term "bigfooted" and "paid for manufacturing capability and advertising network", leaves me with more questions than explanation.

Who's paying for the manufacturing and advertising? By bigfooted you mean stomped on?

Yes stomped on. While you try to get up and running with the widget you invented, some large corporation with manufacturing capability in place, distribution networks established and advertising agencies under contract, flood the market before you can get your new company off the ground. That's why we have the patents you protest.

In a free market, if the widget was not protected by patent, trademark, copyright, etc., a company would be free to compete for the widget market.

[Adak]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Yes stomped on. While you try to get up and running with the widget you invented, some large corporation with manufacturing capability in place, distribution networks established and advertising agencies under contract, flood the market before you can get your new company off the ground. That's why we have the patents you protest.

I don't protest patents. Patents are the physical manifestation of a society that is creating, inventing, thinking.

Wrong again, Bruce.

[xoxoxoBruce]

No, it's the Adak/Romney team that is wrong... still.

[Adak]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

No, it's the Adak/Romney team that is wrong... still.

That's a really strong argument you have there, Bruce -- don't strain your brain with it, OK?