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Old 10-29-2012, 01:49 PM   #11
Adak
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Originally Posted by BigV View Post
What is not weird, just typical of ideologues everywhere, is your inability or unwillingness to see the real success of Obama's policies, and the wisdom of continuing to support them. The problem is *not* his policies, the problem, in this case, is your misrepresentation and/or misunderstanding of them.

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Who should I believe, Obama - or my "lying" eyes? Obama or the CBO data? Obama, or the labor stats?

It's an easy decision - I'm sticking with the facts, and leaving my belief in Obama's policies, in the garbage where they belong.

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regarding the sphere of influence of a given ship, OF COURSE a ship can project power effectively in many places the actual ship isn't in. I suppose we could have a rational argument about the radius of such a sphere, but no rational person would ever suggest that a ship in the Pacific could exert influence in the Atlantic or the Mediterranean. That is what you said Obama used as an excuse. You cling to that.
My argument is that cutting the number of ships, has left us unable to respond quickly, to hotspots and other naval duties (like combined fleet training and maneuvers with other nations).

Do you remember when we started air operations in support of the rebels in Libya? We needed an aircraft carrier over there, off the Libyan coast, but because we HAD NO aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean Sea (which had been our policy for many years), we had to wait for several days while one was brought up through the Suez Canal.

With the help of the French and the Brits, we came out alright in stopping the armor "slaughter" groups headed for Benghazi, but other targets simply had to wait. Undoubtedly that cost lives in Misrata, etc. which were under attack at that time.

Now is not the time to cut down the number of our Naval ships.

Romney will have no problems at all, because the Congress will be controlled by the Republicans, imo. I agree completely that a President can't do much, if he's blocked at every turn, by a Congress that is polarized along party lines, and is controlled by the other party.

That's why you need to vote a straight Republican ticket, obviously!
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