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Old 01-18-2013, 11:14 PM   #1
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...and it continues to be the law of the land because disavowing accumulated power is not within our President's capacity.
You remain the few who complain. Your gripe is admirable. But appreciate how many are so brainwashed as to wait for Limbaugh, et al to tell them how to think. Extremists do not want our privacy rights restored. I believe Scalia even doubted the constitution grants any right of privacy. Few to none in the Cellar or America complain about the Patriot Act.

Why would Obama start another fight (over privacy rights) when we know exactly what the Republican agenda is. A meeting was organized by Luntz the night of Obama's first inauguration. Attended by every major Republican power broker of that time including Ryan, Cantor, DeMint, Kyl, Coburn, and McCarthy. Their decision four years ago was to obstruct everything. Even a large minority of Obama's appointments were held up by secret holds. Even forcing Nobel laurets to withdraw their names. During the Healthcare debate, they even got the public to openly express racial slurs. Because these Republicans are very good at rallying into tirades many adults who are still children.

Why should Obama rescind the Patriot Act? It would only become another excuse to provoke a beehive of tea party wackos? Obama must pick his battles with a House that was elected on principles defined by Limbaugh. "We want America to fail so that Obama will fail". You can read that brainwashing even in some Cellar contributors.

No reason to rescind the Patriot Act when so few to almost none are as concerned. Why would Obama pick another fight with a tea party (anti-American) dominated Congress? That makes no sense. He has more pressing issues.

You are right to be concerned with the Patriot Act. Your complaint results in so little encouragement even in the Cellar.

Try, for example, to get Adak to campaign hard for the elimination of the Patriot Act. A true conservative should want that. Convince him and you have some reason to believe Obama should risk political capital. Currently, many other more pressing issues need attention. Conservatives who should most be concerned with privacy do not want the Patriot Act rescinded. It is their proud creation.

Be it Mission Accomplished, tax cut to the wealthy to create recessions, protecting major communications companies (Comcast, Verizon) at the expense of America’s internet and public interest, destruction of science, basic research and innovation, and even attacking American allies as socialist liberals. Let's be quite clear about this. These wackos all but subverted American efforts to get bin Laden. Because keeping the bogeyman alive was good for their politics.

Obama can only do so much. Too many others problems need more attention. Too few in the public care about the Patriot Act. How many besided you have expressed that quite obvious concern?

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Old 01-19-2013, 12:32 AM   #2
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... Why should Obama rescind the Patriot Act? It would only become another excuse to provoke a beehive of tea party wackos? Obama must pick his battles...

... No reason to rescind the Patriot Act when so few to almost none are as concerned. Why would Obama pick another fight with a tea party (anti-American) dominated Congress? That makes no sense. He has more pressing issues. ...

... Obama can only do so much. Too many others problems need more attention. Too few in the public care about the Patriot Act. ...
[IMHO] Barack Obama, like other Presidents before him, is enough of a politician that he wouldn't diminish the power of the Presidency by relinquishing authority the position has already acquired. Advancing other rationales, no matter how many times you repeat them, is playing second fiddle. [/IMHO]
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