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[tw]

Originally Posted by sexobon

You are entitled to your own opinions; but, not to your own facts. .

Nice if you replied just once with facts. Your experience is both useless and irrelevant to this discussion. Somehow you are an expert because you fired some big guns? Somehow we should know an AR-15 Bushmaster was not used in Sandy Hook because you said so? You know because you fired big guns? Apparently the thrill of firing a big gun proves superior knowledge.

Then explain why assault weapons are necessary for personal defense. You made that claim without justification. And then posted nasty to avoid hard fact with numbers. An adult need not prove claims with disparaging replies. But you deflect reality by doing what Limbaugh, an extremist, or a child would do. Attack the messenger using accusations such as "gibberish".

Assault weapons are for personal defense when one is told so by propaganda. If an extremist, then reality must be 'gibberish'. It must be true. You said it.

Firing big guns proves assault weapons are necessary for personal defense? CDC research says otherwise: ie "43 times". Which is a fact and which is an emotion?

No civilian needs assault weapons for defense. Even beat cops (who drive squad cars, walk shopping malls, ride bicycles, etc) don't carry assault weapons for defense. But somehow, you know otherwise? Feeling it is true proves it must be true? Making denigrating accusation means reality can be ignored? I am so hurt to discover everyone in the Cellar hates me. More empty accusations invented to elude reality. And to deny facts.

A child will belittle rather than prove empty claims "Assault weapons are needed for personal defense?" You made the claim. Prove it as an adult would. As an adult, I am holding your feet to the fire. Prove you claims with facts - not personal attacks.

Adults who were still children also *knew* that smoking cigarettes increased health. Propaganda said so. So it must be true. When we discussed that reality, you directed cruel remarks at me. As if being nasty proved something other than how you think. Maybe this time you could address the topic? I doubt it. So prove me wrong.

Why does the NRA need 'gun violence' research banned? Why do you know a gun is not 43 times more likely to be used on a family member? If facts are posted multiple times, then will you address facts rather than post spiteful like a child? History says you will either post angry. Or run away. For one simple reason. It was always a myth. Assault rifles, big clips, and 155 mm howitzers are not for personal safety.

[IamSam]

Originally Posted by tw

Somehow we should know an AR-15 Bushmaster was not used in Sandy Hook because you said so?

Hold on, big guy. Sexobon said no such thing. In fact, he provided a link stating the opposite:

Here's a decently written article that gives insight into the confusion: http://m.jacksonville.com/news/metro...g-wont-go-away

*bows out of war between tw and the Sexter*

Fanatical gun owners on the right want to be able to defend themselves against the guberment as much as anything else. They forget that GW Bush already made the 2nd Amendment and most of our other rights under the Constitution null and void under the Patriot Act:

Homeland Security - Domestic terrorism - Your guns, please.