I am Liberally Disappointed

Pete Zicato · 08-29-2013, 03:19 PM

Well I couldn't resist the clone thread.

But I really have been disappointed in the Obama administration. Maybe you could point to Republican obstruction in Congress but given all his rhetoric, I expected more.

Griff · 08-29-2013, 08:52 PM

The GOP Congress isn't helpful but he's blowing the stuff he can do on his own as well... I am disappointed that I decided a third party vote was a waste. Barring a serious change agent like Kucinich or someone, I'll either quit voting or go third party. In my soul, I'm an anarchist so maybe I just need to stop supporting any of these sociopaths.

Flint · 08-30-2013, 01:00 AM

Well, he is very charming and charismatic.

I'm trying to think of an example where that ever turns out to be a good thing...

Spexxvet · 08-30-2013, 08:46 AM

It's interesting that Democrats, when elected, tend to be more centrist than they campaigned, and repubicans tend to be more conservative than they campaigned.

Flint · 08-30-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

It's interesting that Democrats, when elected, tend to be more centrist than they campaigned, and repubicans tend to be more conservative than they campaigned.

That seems like an accurate observation to me. One might theorize that there is an 'invisible force' behind the scenes that pushes every political machine to the right. If I had to guess what that force is, I'd say the easiset explanation is 'big money' or whatever you want to call the pro-business, anti-individual interests, dystopian nightmare monsters that pull the puppet strings of our system. No matter who we elect, they are pushed more to the right of what we asked for. In this theory, Republicans are openly evil, but Democrats are also evil. Slightly less.

Pete Zicato · 08-30-2013, 11:07 AM

@Flint - Sounds like we're in similar viewpoints politics-wise.

Flint · 08-30-2013, 11:10 AM

So when are we all going to revolt and vote third party, en masse?

Being pressured, every four years, to pick the 'lesser of two evils' is not working.

Undertoad · 08-30-2013, 01:10 PM

Yeah, remember in 2002-2007 when the Rs had the Presidency, control of Congress, and 5/9ths of the Supreme Court? They outlawed abortion, cut Federal spending, set tough immigration laws, abolished the Department of Energy, returned all control of education to the states, and... huh.

infinite monkey · 08-30-2013, 01:11 PM

imma wait and see what everyone else is doing

/little dog in tall grass

Griff · 08-30-2013, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Well, he is very charming and charismatic.

I'm trying to think of an example where that ever turns out to be a good thing...

Yeah, still looking for an example.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-30-2013, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

So when are we all going to revolt and vote third party, en masse?

I'm ahead of the curve, I've been revolting for years.

Griff · 08-30-2013, 06:21 PM

infinite monkey · 08-30-2013, 07:46 PM

Oh crap that made me laugh! My friends and i saw History of the World Part 1 when it came out. still makes me chuckle. i mean, chvckle.

Urbane Guerrilla · 09-02-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

If I had to guess what that force is, I'd say the easiset explanation is 'big money' or whatever you want to call the pro-business, anti-individual interests, dystopian nightmare . . .

If you think probusiness is anti-individual, you know a lot less than you think you do about either individuals or business.

Seriously, how the hell do you --? Oh never mind. I'd have expected better from you. Only a giant statist is going to call a rightward push to Republicans something that makes them "openly evil." Individualist philosophy, and long knives out against the statists, is what will rescue us from a horror too many Cellarites imagine to be a heaven.

You don't get heaven without rejecting statist thinking in yourself and all other persons. All of them.

I'd put it to you that you don't know dystopia, either: it's statist collectivism, and is inherently a dystopia.

Pete Zicato · 09-04-2013, 08:29 AM

Sure G. That's why you see all these corporations lobbying for worker rights. It explains everything.

08-29-2013, 03:19 PM	#1
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	I am Liberally Disappointed Well I couldn't resist the clone thread. But I really have been disappointed in the Obama administration. Maybe you could point to Republican obstruction in Congress but given all his rhetoric, I expected more. __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

08-29-2013, 08:52 PM	#2
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The GOP Congress isn't helpful but he's blowing the stuff he can do on his own as well... I am disappointed that I decided a third party vote was a waste. Barring a serious change agent like Kucinich or someone, I'll either quit voting or go third party. In my soul, I'm an anarchist so maybe I just need to stop supporting any of these sociopaths. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-30-2013, 01:00 AM	#3
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Well, he is very charming and charismatic. I'm trying to think of an example where that ever turns out to be a good thing... __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-30-2013, 08:46 AM	#4
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	It's interesting that Democrats, when elected, tend to be more centrist than they campaigned, and repubicans tend to be more conservative than they campaigned. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

08-30-2013, 11:07 AM	#6
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	@Flint - Sounds like we're in similar viewpoints politics-wise. __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

08-30-2013, 11:10 AM	#7
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	So when are we all going to revolt and vote third party, en masse? Being pressured, every four years, to pick the 'lesser of two evils' is not working. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-30-2013, 01:10 PM	#8
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Yeah, remember in 2002-2007 when the Rs had the Presidency, control of Congress, and 5/9ths of the Supreme Court? They outlawed abortion, cut Federal spending, set tough immigration laws, abolished the Department of Energy, returned all control of education to the states, and... huh.

08-30-2013, 01:11 PM	#9
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	imma wait and see what everyone else is doing /little dog in tall grass

08-30-2013, 06:21 PM	#12
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	__________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-30-2013, 07:46 PM	#13
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Oh crap that made me laugh! My friends and i saw History of the World Part 1 when it came out. still makes me chuckle. i mean, chvckle.

09-04-2013, 08:29 AM	#15
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	Sure G. That's why you see all these corporations lobbying for worker rights. It explains everything. __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

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