I Think It Is Time We Got Involved.

[Big Sarge]

The DA has no business in this matter. It is a municipal court matter that will be prosecuted by the city prosecutor. The kids have the option to file a civil rights violation that would be investigated by the FBI, but it would more likely end up a civil suit

[Clodfobble]

I'm confused, Sarge. Don't all the city prosecutors work for the DA's office?

[Big Sarge]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I'm confused, Sarge. Don't all the city prosecutors work for the DA's office?

District Attorneys prosecute felony cases that occur in their jurisdiction. Municipal Prosecutors handle misdemeanor cases in their jurisdiction. Justice Courts or County Courts, which use the County Prosecutor, handle misdemeanor cases generated by the sheriff's department, set bonds in felony cases unless it is one of the 5 heinous crimes which can result in the depth penalty or life in prison, and handle preliminary hearings for District Court.

To be charged by the District Attorney in a felony case, he can take a case directly to the grand jury and seek a secret indictment. That forgoes all of the pretrial hearings and takes the suspect directly to trial reducing the discovery time.

So to answer your question, a municipal prosecutor or county prosecutor can tell the DA to fuck off. Now it really gets interesting when we factor in the federal prosecutors and the duties of Federal magistrates, district judges, and circuit judges.

The whole problem in understanding in who does what can be boiled down to police dramas and that totally unrealistic piece of shit show CSI. Who has ever heard of a forensic investigator making arrests? A forensic investigator only collects and analyzes evidence. The results are given to the criminal investigators ( sworn and commissioned officers) who interpret the evidence and decide whom to arrest.

Whew! That felt good to get off of my chest

[glatt]

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

So to answer your question, a municipal prosecutor or county prosecutor can tell the DA to fuck off.

Who do these local prosecutors answer to? Are they elected or appointed? If appointed, are their bosses elected? Where does the public apply political pressure to get them reigned in?

[Big Sarge]

Originally Posted by glatt

Who do these local prosecutors answer to? Are they elected or appointed? If appointed, are their bosses elected? Where does the public apply political pressure to get them reigned in?

City prosecutors are hired by the city. County prosecutors are an elected position. District Attorneys are elected. All Federal prosecutors are appointed, except for assistants who are hired through civil service

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

I was small and picked on till I stood up and knocked a kid out with my trombone case applied to his head.

Nowadays, you would have gotten in just as much trouble as the bully. Maybe more, if the only thing the school employee saw was you hitting him, and none of the harassment leading up to it. Another side effect of zero tolerance.

[Undertoad]

I'm afraid we have cultural differences.

Right, you were raised that way and so it is just fine with you, Q.E.D.

[Big Sarge]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Right, you were raised that way and so it is just fine with you, Q.E.D.

It is caused a cultural norm. Were you raised in a rural or urban environment? Have you ever been hunting? Have you ever been a knock down kick ass fight where it didn't matter if you won or loss? What matter was you stood your ground.

What makes your thoughts or beliefs on this matter correct?

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

It is caused a cultural norm. Were you raised in a rural or urban environment? Have you ever been hunting? Have you ever been a knock down kick ass fight where it didn't matter if you won or loss? What matter was you stood your ground.

What makes your thoughts or beliefs on this matter correct?

IDK, PROGRESS?

Cultural norms are bullshit groupthink, proof of nothing. Slavery was a cultural norm.

The idea that might makes right is barbaric and sad. Would you apply that method between an 18 year old and a 70 year old? Would you apply it between an 18 year old in good condition and an 18 year old paraplegic? Would you apply it between a man and a woman? Well why not?

People who fight should be charged with crime and jailed. One can be hurt, paralyzed or killed in a fight. What more do you need to know? We're not fucking cavemen any more!

Well one of us isn't.

[Griff]

I went to a high school like what Sarge remembers. I think that mindset is still in play there as there was recently another gay teen suicide. There is nothing brave or romantic about teen violence.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

... One can be hurt, paralyzed or killed in a fight. ...

But, but, it's so easy a caveman could do it!

Think of the cavechildren.

[infinite monkey]

Every time I read this thread title, it reminds me of this commercial.

[fargon]

Ya! Sarge.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

Tw, I do believe you are a sheep. Have you ever physically defended anything?

Disarming big dics with reasoning and logic is easy when an ego is not attached to every decision. Standing your ground means an ego is more important than adult thought. Ego comes from a brain that children use. Intelligent thought comes later in brain development. Many adults use a childhood brain to prove their manliness with fists. Adults eventually form a part of the brain that discovers the stupidity of ego.

Fools and the dumbest among us think fisticuffs defend a nation. They even forget that the world's strongest nations got that way by having less military. They are so attached to a child's brain as to even prove their manliness with insults.

The military spends so much time teaching discipline. Otherwise too many children in adult bodies would entertain their ego rather than be professional.

Unfortunately this may be too cerebral. Research in adolescent development notes some adults never fully develop a pre-frontal cortex. Then ego is more important than a grasp of reality. Only children (ie George Zimmerman) need to 'stand their ground'.

[JBKlyde]

no fuck the phone