Gruber on Obamacare

[xoxoxoBruce]

But glatt, why read that boring stuff when the internet is flooded with emails telling you it's bad.

Gruber was a credible numbers cruncher, so he was used to do the calculations, then hired to do be the face of the calculations, not the face of Obamacare. He was recorded on video, being hired help making off the cuff statements of opinion, he probably believed to be common knowledge.

He saw flaws in the system, we all did. They were introduced into the bill as a result of juggling several very powerful, well funded groups. Insurance companies, Drug companies, Hospital corporations, Medical Device makers and the AMA. It can still work better than what we had, with everyone getting on board to make it work, especially the state Governors.

But why settle for that, when what it really needs is for the politicians to tweak it. They have the power to fix the flaws if they stop playing politics, stop being obstructionists, stop lying, and do what's best for the people for a change.

But that probably won't happen because the American public is stupid, they'll keep believing the emails and reelecting their rapists.

[Griff]

To me the appalling thing is that political opponents no longer seem to attack opponents programs on the facts. Instead of making hay with the mandatory nature of Obamacare or Obamas lies about keeping your old program, they go with death panel bullshit or pretend medicare isn't a government program. We are at a point where nobody can admit their opponent has a value system they're making choices based upon.

[henry quirk]

Gruber's statements are unremarkable.

The attempt by the Right to capitalize on his remarks is unremarkable.

The attempt by the Left to minimize his remarks is unremarkable.

This is a non-story.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Griff

To me the appalling thing is that political opponents no longer seem to attack opponents programs on the facts. Instead of making hay with the mandatory nature of Obamacare or Obamas lies about keeping your old program, they go with death panel bullshit or pretend medicare isn't a government program. We are at a point where nobody can admit their opponent has a value system they're making choices based upon.

Because they can, it works because Americans are stupid. Guess Gruber was right.