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[Griff]

I am certain we are have two completely different, wholly unrelated conversations. You are talking about free speech as interpreted by our government. I'm talking about organizations that are operating outside of legal frameworks, although one fancies itself a government. My reference to free speech was to get people to notice that speech was being defended by suppressing speech. A little irony to introduce the idea of electronic attacks on a low tech insurgency.

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Originally Posted by Griff

I am certain we are have two completely different, wholly unrelated conversations. You are talking about free speech as interpreted by our government. I'm talking about organizations that are operating outside of legal frameworks, although one fancies itself a government. My reference to free speech was to get people to notice that speech was being defended by suppressing speech. A little irony to introduce the idea of electronic attacks on a low tech insurgency.

Ahh, yes. Now I see. The first amendment is bit of a bugbear for me.

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Originally Posted by Griff

My reference to free speech was to get people to notice that speech was being defended by suppressing speech.

One type of free speech that is a threat to all is one that promotes hate.

One can demand protection of free speech using rhetoric. Or one can demand protection of free speech by also knowing how, what, and why other types of free speech are so important and necessary. Only moderates also appreciate the many reasons how and why.

Defined are two completely different people - an extremist and a moderate. An extremist will demand free speech only because that is the political agenda they are ordered to worship. Free speech (hate) that promoted 8 million dead Jews was advocated by extremists. Others who also learn underlying details - ie the purpose of that free speech - know that hate speech is dangerous to the purpose of free speech and to the advancment of mankind.

Free speech that promotes hate is dangerous to all. Free speech that also discusses underlying details - the whys - (rahter than soundbyte rhetoric) is essential for the advancement of mankind. Free speech that advicates hate should be viciously attacked as destructive even to all other types of free speech.