Down here at the pawn shop

[Gravdigr]

Asked for the second time:

Why do we not use physical punishment (beating, infliction of pain) against prison inmates as part of their sentence?

And I'm not talking Guantanamo...I'm talking shoplifters, armed robbers, mother stabbers, father rapers, you know, the folks on the Group W bench...

Also, I'm not asking if we should, or not...I'm asking why we don't.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

Asked for the second time:

Why do we not use physical punishment (beating, infliction of pain) against prison inmates as part of their sentence?

And I'm not talking Guantanamo...I'm talking shoplifters, armed robbers, mother stabbers, father rapers, you know, the folks on the Group W bench...

Also, I'm not asking if we should, or not...I'm asking why we don't.

I don't know, but we used to. Whipping was common a hundred years ago. There must be some case law somewhere.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by glatt

I don't know, but we used to. Whipping was common a hundred years ago. There must be some case law somewhere.

And why did we stop?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Dya mean if they hit MORE they could fix it?

What is the very worst time of day to be at the shop? It's the same very worst time to be sitting on a bench in a center city subway platform. 3 PM in the afternoon.

C'mon, with your indepth study of the sociological problems of the ghetto you should be able to present a better case than one street crime. I'd love to see your data on why spanking children causes street crime and "hitting, there's talk about hitting, sideways statements about who is gonna get an asswhoopin" is not the result of living in desperate poverty where everyone struggling causes friction.

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

Asked for the second time:
Why do we not use physical punishment (beating, infliction of pain) against prison inmates as part of their sentence?

OMG... you're right... why couldn't I see if before.
Don't spank the little darlings, lock them the fuck up. Won't behave? A couple years chained up in the dungeon will fix that.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

...lock them the fuck up.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

Asked for the second time:

Why do we not use physical punishment (beating, infliction of pain) against prison inmates as part of their sentence? ... Also, I'm not asking if we should, or not...I'm asking why we don't.

This method of behavior modification, like many others, is mostly effective during the formative years. If it was as effective with adults, we might be using it instead of putting people in prison. Especially if it was more economical. The first time you asked, it seemed to be a rhetorical question.

[Griff]

Spanking Creates Aggressive Children, Study Shows

Naturally we can't look at the methodology or data without buying the journal. From my years in early childhood education, the idea smells right. The broken ghetto culture has no other option for asserting authority. They hit because they were hit. They lash out at the people around them because that was how they were taught to deal with problems. The folks that designed Head Start knew that and fight that fight but hitters breed faster than the learners. Now that Early Education is about academic achievement rather than socialization that tiny finger is gonna come out of the dike. Maybe someone has a better idea about instilling values. Jesus and Mohammed failed the inner city. The Irish had similar issues and mostly escaped through better economics but there was a general respect for learning in the culture... Good luck America!