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Old 10-19-2015, 09:56 AM   #1
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LL, are you trying to say: the people who live in the ghetto are us;
we are all in this together; and therefore, the matter that the rate of gun murders
is ten times higher than it is in non-ghetto neighborhoods is entirely irrelevant.

~ or if that is not the point, please make your point ~
Of course we don’t all live in the “ghetto”… and the states identified
in my correlation of data on “gun murders” vs “population density”
are not 100% “ghetto” everywhere in the state.
That should be obvious from my facetious question in a subsequent post.
Likewise obviously, higher rates of “gun murders” among Black youth are not irrelevant.

At issue is your prefacing statement about “manipulating statistics
for one’s own use” - followed by your use of the term “ghetto”.
Separating out "gun murders” along with the attribution:
“None [no states] in permanent ghetto underclass country
where the gun murders take place.” is an example of exactly that.
Taken together, they convey an image that “gun murders”
are what occur in a “ghetto”, and “gun deaths” are what occur elsewhere.

Why your need to even use the term “ghetto” ?
Gun murders also occur elsewhere, and gun deaths, gun injuries,
and gun intimidations occur throughout our cities and states.
This has been one of my points in subsequent postings.

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Old 10-19-2015, 02:47 PM   #2
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Why your need to even use the term “ghetto” ?
Gun murders also occur elsewhere, and gun deaths, gun injuries,
and gun intimidations occur throughout our cities and states.
This has been one of my points in subsequent postings.
All those things happen everywhere, and the higher the population the more often it will happen.

You refiguring using the population density of the state, then pointing out the northeast is high on the list, caused UT's shorthand explanation, ghettos.
Then I went into it further, explaining the number of ghettos in the northeast is higher, and that number skews the, gun-trouble vs state-density, graph.

I don't understand your objection to ghetto, it's a perfectly cromulent word. It's shorthand that people understand. While the reasons may vary why the ghetto they're familiar with may exist, they'll know the result.
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Old 10-19-2015, 04:48 PM   #3
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I don't understand your objection to ghetto...
Perhaps it's the inherently racist connotations of the word.

Perhaps.

What do I know....
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