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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Now you're mixing terms... "poor" vs "weak" "leader" vs "manager"

Not hardly. Either "poor" or "weak" can be used to describe an ineffective leader. One of the keys to being an effective subordinate leader is to have an effective leader over you. The affects of not having an effective leader at the top can be minimalized if that person is a good [or strong] manager.

While there is some overlap, the distinction between leadership and management has been established since Genghis Khan first wrote about it during his campaigns in the 13th century. The terms would only seem mixed to someone untrained in this area and that's why common core leadership training exists.

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Ask Wayne LaPierre.

He's not running for President my faithful one trick pony.