Paris attacks

[sexobon]

They're probably concerned that resettled Syrians would be taking jobs away from our domestic terrorists.

[Lamplighter]

The Gov of Michigan is one of the ringleaders of this witch-hunt.

Imagine how many vacant houses in Detroit could be made into homes by Syrian refugees.
Maybe these refugees would even be willing to fix them up a bit, and pay taxes on them,
and work in the community, and have kids, and join the military, and ... you know,
the same sort of things other refugees have done when given asylum in the US.

( Some might even become Republicans)

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[xoxoxoBruce]

There was a lot of bitching about the Vietnamese refugees also, because the prolonged war which affected almost everyone. But they had money, and the skills to succeed in a better financial climate.

Syrians, work where? The jobs that allow vacant houses to be rehabbed and pay taxes on the result, have gone to China, Mexico, India. So you bring in refugees with nothing but the shirt on their back, may or may not speak English, then expect them to support themselves and rehab real estate? Lofty goals indeed. There has to be a plan to address those issues if you expect them to integrate and be successful. Otherwise they become destitute and desperate... prime for recruiting by terrorists.

I'm not saying keep them out, I'm saying do it right.

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

,,,But they had money, and the skills to succeed in a better financial climate.

Syrians, work where? ...So you bring in refugees with nothing but the shirt on their back,
may or may not speak English, then expect them to support themselves
and rehab real estate ? Lofty goals indeed. ...

I'm not saying keep them out, I'm saying do it right.

What a bunch of preconceived ideas !
Like learning English is something that refugees have never done before.
Like these particular refugees are unskilled, incapable, and ... latent terrorists.

How much motivation did it take to risk the lives of their children to leave Syria ?
What skills did they need to assemble the $ for passage those boats ?
How did they live in Syria... putting Elephant Leaves over their head when it rained ?

What do you mean by "... do it right" ?
... Maybe we could to build a "Trumph Wall" all the way around our castle.

Sorry be sarcastic, xoB, but your response this time one is xenophobic.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

... refugees are unskilled, incapable, and ... latent terrorists...

Wow, Lamplighter. This is some of the most disgusting stuff you have ever written.

Our country was built by immigrants. Why do you hate America?

[glatt]

That is to say, you have cherry picked parts of Bruce's posts to twist them into something you can argue against, just like I did with my quote of you.

Putting refugees in vacant Detroit houses won't work because the houses are empty for a reason. There are no jobs in Detroit. If we want to absorb refugees, we need to spread them around in multiple locations where they can find work. We need to do it right.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Sorry be sarcastic, xoB, but your response this time one is xenophobic.

No it wasn't but yours certainly was. Twisting what I said about doing more than just dumping the refugees, shows a black heart beneath that left liberal persona.

[Lamplighter]

Originally Posted by glatt

That is to say, you have cherry picked parts of Bruce's posts
to twist them into something you can argue against, just like I did with my quote of you.

... We need to do it right.

Glatt. Is my bit about using vacant houses in Detroit the only idea presented in my sequence of posts ?
If that is all you got from it, then strike it out.

The Gov of Michigan is one of the ringleaders of this witch-hunt.

Maybe [they will]…pay taxes and work in the community, and have kids, and join the military, and
... you know, the same sort of things other refugees have done when given asylum in the US.

( Some might even become Republicans)

Diverting a discussion into a throwaway issue (here, it’s jobs in Detroit) is a tactic to delay or re-direct political issues.

I think we are all bright enough around here to get the gist of xoB’s post.
It’s a judgement call as to whether my responding to several of his comments
(i.e.,” nothing but the shirt on their back”, “may not speak English”,
[insufficient skills] “to support themselves”, “prime for recruiting by terrorists” )
amounts to cherry-picking. - - - I don’t believe so.

Even from all this, we still don’t see what is meant by “...do it right “.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Series of posts? I responded to one, what you wrote, not what you may have been thinking. I gave valid reasons why it was a bad idea. You could not refute them so you twisted my response and went off in a snit.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

So you bring in refugees with nothing but the shirt on their back, may or may not speak English, then expect them to support themselves and rehab real estate? Lofty goals indeed. There has to be a plan to address those issues if you expect them to integrate and be successful. Otherwise they become destitute and desperate... prime for recruiting by terrorists.

Throughout America's history, destitude and desparate immigrants learned English, bought houses, and succeeded. In fact, 40% of the companies in this nation were started by immigrants. These tend to become the most successful Americans.

The Syrians are a particularly unique group. Whereas maybe 10% or as much as 15% of Syrians are higher educated (ie professionals), 40% of the immigrants (refugees) from Syria are these better educated people. Most waves of immigrants almost never such a high percentage of better educated people. Any nation that wants a brighter economic future (and more productive companies) would gleefully welcome Syrians.

Detroit clearly needs these people. Detroit has a job shortage because Detroit has a shortage or innovation people - the source of new jobs.