Marvel Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D

[DanaC]

I am really struggling with Arrow. I like elements of it still - I really like Detective Lance. Paul Blackthorne really brought it in the episode before last. And the last episode I thought was much stronger than it's been for much of this season.

Watching Daredevil and Jessica Jones has kind of ruined Arrow for me a bit.

I dunno - I just haven't felt that invested in Oliver Queen just lately. I liked him better as the batmanesque troubled hero - billionaire playboy by day and kick-ass vigilante by night, with just a couple of people who knew his secret. Instead of this Green Arrow crap (yes, I know that's the original comic book character), where he basically leads the world's least competent scooby gang.

And the new suit sucks. Did I already mention that I hate the new suit? Looks fucking ridiculous.

Also Olicity pretty much killed Arrow for me. That and the fact that it sometimes just seems to be mainly a staging post for other shows to launch from. I'm hoping that Felicity and Oliver can just get on with being good friends who once were together - that'd be ok. If I have to watch another season of will they-won't they-oh they did-now they don't-now they do again bullshit, I may have to abandon it in disgust. Which is a shame, because I loved Felicity as a character. She was awesome. But they made her really irritating.

I still watch it , because...I dunno - every so often I get that good Arrow vibe from it again. But it's like a chore for several episodes at a time interspersed with good stuff.

I quite like Dahrk. he's pretty evil and presents a credible threat. Which is good, because they've basically reduced Malcom Merlin to pantomime villain.

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Originally Posted by DanaC

I am really struggling with Arrow. I like elements of it still - I really like Detective Lance. Paul Blackthorne really brought it in the episode before last. And the last episode I thought was much stronger than it's been for much of this season.

Watching Daredevil and Jessica Jones has kind of ruined Arrow for me a bit.

I dunno - I just haven't felt that invested in Oliver Queen just lately. I liked him better as the batmanesque troubled hero - billionaire playboy by day and kick-ass vigilante by night, with just a couple of people who knew his secret. Instead of this Green Arrow crap (yes, I know that's the original comic book character), where he basically leads the world's least competent scooby gang.

And the new suit sucks. Did I already mention that I hate the new suit? Looks fucking ridiculous.

Also Olicity pretty much killed Arrow for me. That and the fact that it sometimes just seems to be mainly a staging post for other shows to launch from. I'm hoping that Felicity and Oliver can just get on with being good friends who once were together - that'd be ok. If I have to watch another season of will they-won't they-oh they did-now they don't-now they do again bullshit, I may have to abandon it in disgust. Which is a shame, because I loved Felicity as a character. She was awesome. But they made her really irritating.

I still watch it , because...I dunno - every so often I get that good Arrow vibe from it again. But it's like a chore for several episodes at a time interspersed with good stuff.

I quite like Dahrk. he's pretty evil and presents a credible threat. Which is good, because they've basically reduced Malcom Merlin to pantomime villain.

I agree that they've seemed to lose sight of what made the characters compelling and sympathetic. Even the new intro by Oliver sounds like he is apologizing for being a shittier, less interesting character.

My chief complaint is that far too often it goes well beyond straying into, and immigrates into soap-opera. The camera angles, the flat delivery as though reading lines, and even the dialogue itself has failed this series And sometimes it feels like Barrowman is just phoning his lines in, but who can blame him, how many times can you say, "I'm not the man you think I am." with feeling?

The inch and I joke that the series should be called People Who Are Not Who You Think They Are. We hear that at least once a show.

I am still only up to episode 8 of season 4. I accidentally saw, in a google search, a possible spoiler pertaining to Felicity's father.

Also I can't wait for Jessica Jones to come back because that is a great show, but again, will they need to evolve her out of what makes her badass?