"She", not "he", guys

[BrianR]

An article in the Boston Globe that I think sums up the Nay votes pretty well.

Well put and reasoned without a lot of hating. For once. Most of what I have read on this so far is a lot of hate and misinformation.

And this article, while not openly supporting the judge's decision, is more in the Yea camp.

[DanaC]

Nobody is going to call Bruce a bully, because he isn't one.

[henry quirk]

I agree....irrelevant...kinda misses the point of my post.

*shrug*

[DanaC]

Yep. Somewhat deliberately.

Simply using the words you point out doesn't attract the label 'bully'.

[henry quirk]

Still missing the point of my post (and: no, I won't be explaining it).

[DanaC]

He says, missing the point of my post.

[henry quirk]

Nope, your point was clear as crystal...just not worth acknowledging (by me, anyway).

'nuff said.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Nope, your point was clear as crystal...just not worth acknowledging (by me, anyway).

'nuff said.

There are many people in the world, no doubt, who give a fuck what you do or do not acknowledge, Henry. I am not one of them.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Nope, your point was clear as crystal...just not worth acknowledging (by me, anyway).

'nuff said.

Originally Posted by DanaC

There are many people in the world, no doubt, who give a fuck what you do or do not acknowledge, Henry. I am not one of them.

hq reminds me of tw when he's not in his manic phase. he still knows everything, he just doesn't deign to acknowledge it.

[DanaC]

@bruce: So, actually, for you it's the broader picture, rather than specifically this procedure that you object to?

That's a whole other argument I think. Whether much of what is done for prisoners is necessary and warrants taxpayer money. It's the separating off of this procedure as different from much of what is currently covered by taxpayers that I object to more, I think.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by DanaC

@bruce: So, actually, for you it's the broader picture, rather than specifically this procedure that you object to?

That's a whole other argument I think. Whether much of what is done for prisoners is necessary and warrants taxpayer money. It's the separating off of this procedure as different from much of what is currently covered by taxpayers that I object to more, I think.

Goddamnit, I left a whole long reply last night but it's not here. Probably previewed and didn't post, or some stupid shit.
Anyway, basically yes. Prisoners get treated better than vets, and I question what's necessary vs what's job security for the docs and shrinks. They have a basically free hand to tinker to their hearts and wallets delight.

[henry quirk]

HA!

Mimicry suits you...

[DanaC]

Me, sir? A mimic, sir?


How dare you!

How very dare you!


(@ Sundae: *grins*)

[it]

i am not sure whats going on, but regarding the OP:

the question is contextual and depends on which aspects are relevant.

for example, if the matter in question is a medical question, i would most likely relate to them as a male who has had major surgery and hormonal treatments, because both facts can be quite relevant.

likewise, if i would be looking for a women to start a family with, a tranny wouldn't be able to provide that. if its a matter of sexual attraction, and the tranny looks too masculine for my taste to me despite alternations (as is often the case), then she isn't of my sexual liking, just as most physically masculine women would be regardless of how they are born. if this isn't the case, and for my sensual experience it feels and looks like i am with a woman, where the fact she was born with male organs merely being a little fact at the back of my head, i doubt it would influence me much, though i would be curious as to how well do the altered genitalia function as far as sexual pleasure and orgasms. i haven't yet being in that situation though.

however if i am talking to her as a friend or a potential friend, then it makes the most sense to me to respect her sense of identity. likewise, if i am looking for some female advice, and she has gained enough experience within a feminine sociological reality, i am likely to treat her as a female.

that's being said, i do not feel i should have my questions and questioning bound by the laws of PC mannerism, and i'm unlikely to consider her a potentially good friend if they get pissed over it. your different, you made the choice to inform me about it, it incites curiousity, and possibilities that you might not feel comfortable with are going to be explored given that information, if you expect me to walk on egg shells for you after doing that, i consider yo a dick no matter what's between your pants.

now, who are we talking about?

[DanaC]

Hi Trace!!!!! *hugs*

Where ya been ?