Intolerance. - Page 2

Flint · 10-24-2006, 08:37 AM

The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception.

skysidhe · 10-24-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Karma is not about this lifetime... the law of karma is what you do in this lifetime affects what happens to you in the next. It is about reincarnation, not immediate justice.

Well , since I do not believe in reincarnation I try to live as though Karma is an immediate thing. If you are bad tempered then you will feel the effects of that. If not immediately then very soon. There are consequences. Natural ones that I consider to be karmatic. There are basic negative and positive energys that a person can feel and project outward. ( or inward ) You can say you are Buddhist all you want but if you have a bad ass temper then I would probably think the outward manifestation doesn't match the reality of the person inside.

Many religions are like this. The people do not live it outwardly. It isn't internalized spiritually. They are only on a intellectual level about their religion and it never reaches their heart.

I looked up Karma. I found alot of information that supports 'cause and effect'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma

skysidhe · 10-24-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception.

wow, very nicely put

Flint · 10-24-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Karma is not about this lifetime... the law of karma is what you do in this lifetime affects what happens to you in the next. It is about reincarnation, not immediate justice.

I think people may be confusing karma with John Lennon's "Instant Karma" . . .

Spexxvet · 10-24-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception.

And to be conservative republican

morethanpretty · 10-24-2006, 09:19 AM

Isn't the objective of Buddhism enlightenment and knowledge? Ultimately "Nirvana"? That would explain why you become so frustrated with the willful ignorance of others (AKA stupidity). But don't be intolerant of the involuntary ignorant. And remember these things:
Ignorance is Bliss
All things are relative.

There are those people who probably believe you are ignorant and find you intolerable.

morethanpretty · 10-24-2006, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

And to be conservative republican

I've known some very intelligent "conservative republicans" who aren't hyprocritical and do not like the hyprocritical party representations the politicians have become. Its all media, not fact. The majority of the doctrine, or ideals of the party are reasonable, those with the most media attention are not.

Flint · 10-24-2006, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty

Its all media, not fact.

The Liberal Media Conspiracy strikes again.

Spexxvet · 10-24-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty

I've known some very intelligent "conservative republicans" who aren't hyprocritical and do not like the hyprocritical party representations the politicians have become. Its all media, not fact. The majority of the doctrine, or ideals of the party are reasonable, those with the most media attention are not.

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Originally Posted by Flint
The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception

My point was not about intelligence, hypocricy or reasonableness. It was that conservative repubicans want to force everyone else to have their values. They wouldn't have an abortion, so NOBODY should be able to have an abortion. Same with same-gender marriage, etc.

"dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?"

Think about it.

Flint · 10-24-2006, 09:39 AM

FLINT "is not a source" ha ha ha

morethanpretty · 10-24-2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

The Liberal Media Conspiracy strikes again.

The media is sensational not liberal.

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

My point was not about intelligence, hypocricy or reasonableness. It was that conservative repubicans want to force everyone else to have their values. They wouldn't have an abortion, so NOBODY should be able to have an abortion. Same with same-gender marriage, etc.

"dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?"

Think about it.

They believe that abortion is tatamount to murder. Its only logically for them to try and ban it. The same-gender marriage stuff is BS I agree. BUT they aren't trying to force their values on others, they are trying to "protect" their value. Liberal Democrats do the same thing, everyone does this, its human nature. Conservatives say that abortion and gay marriage are wrong; liberals say that prohibit either is wrong.

Back to rkz's concern: You'll be fine, take the intolerance you have for certain people and change it into sympathy/empathy/pity for those people.

Flint · 10-24-2006, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty

The media is sensational not liberal.

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty

...take the intolerance you have for certain people and change it into sympathy/empathy/pity for those people.

9th Engineer · 10-24-2006, 02:54 PM

I am intolerent of people who think that I have any responsiblity to them in any way. I whole heartedly agree with live and let live, and by that same measure with live and let die. Combine this with my philosophy that charity and philanthropy are to be applauded, but any good work by an individual that they could not choose is neither.

Urbane Guerrilla · 10-29-2006, 10:18 PM

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. . . charity and philanthropy are to be applauded, but any good work by an individual that they could not choose is neither.

Involuntary charity is indistinguishable from taxation.

Excessive taxation invariably decays an economy and that is a direct cause of general poverty. This is what collapsed the western provinces of the Roman Empire.

10-30-2006, 06:38 AM

9th engineer is a true soldier , and as such he has my respect .

10-24-2006, 08:37 AM	#16
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through. We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at. Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong? To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

10-24-2006, 09:19 AM	#21
morethanpretty Thats "Miss Zipper Neck" to you. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: little town (but not the littlest) in texas Posts: 2,957	Isn't the objective of Buddhism enlightenment and knowledge? Ultimately "Nirvana"? That would explain why you become so frustrated with the willful ignorance of others (AKA stupidity). But don't be intolerant of the involuntary ignorant. And remember these things: Ignorance is Bliss All things are relative. There are those people who probably believe you are ignorant and find you intolerable. __________________ Addicts may suck dick for coke, but love came up with the idea to put a dick in there to begin with. -Jack O'Brien

10-24-2006, 09:39 AM	#25
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	FLINT "is not a source" ha ha ha __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

10-24-2006, 02:54 PM	#28
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	I am intolerent of people who think that I have any responsiblity to them in any way. I whole heartedly agree with live and let live, and by that same measure with live and let die. Combine this with my philosophy that charity and philanthropy are to be applauded, but any good work by an individual that they could not choose is neither. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

10-30-2006, 06:38 AM	#30
Buddug Guest Posts: n/a	9th engineer is a true soldier , and as such he has my respect .

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