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Old 04-26-2007, 11:36 AM   #16
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Damn this article. At the top, it says his problems are that he can't see, can't eat, can't talk, can't breathe, is in pain, and there is no cure. I wrote this big long post listing the reasons why the plug shouldn't be pulled, since the kid isn't in a coma. His symptoms suck, but he is alert. You don't pull the plug on people who are awake.

After writing the big long post, I re-read the article, and it isn't until I see buried in the tail end of the article that the boy "is unaware of his surroundings." In my mind, that is the biggest point, and they bury it. Put it in the first paragraph CNN, you morons.

Anyway, they should pull the plug. Let the poor kid go.
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Old 04-26-2007, 05:54 PM   #17
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This is the worst kind of double-bind conflict for a conservative: taking some of their precious money VS the sanctity of life.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa!

Maybe someone should just shoot the kid with their handgun - themercenary, you feel up to it? [/cynical sarcasm]
No, but I would gladly turn off the vent if that is the final decision of the team.
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Old 04-26-2007, 08:08 PM   #18
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My mom was full out unconscious the other night, but was still able to grasp and squeeze my fingers with a good deal of strength, however, she was not doing so volitionally.
This entire concept was described by a researcher on this subject in Scientific American - I believe the current and latest issue.

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Old 04-27-2007, 06:00 PM   #19
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If the hospital pulls the plug, the parents can sue for wrongful death.

You want to be 'pro-choice'; well the parents are choosing for the child to live. Let's go to Nazi Germany where several non-Aryan parents had no choice whether their children live or die.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:04 PM   #20
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If the hospital pulls the plug, the parents can sue for wrongful death.
In Texas at least, where this case is, they will not win. There are a dozen cases of precedent.
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Old 04-27-2007, 07:07 PM   #21
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If the hospital pulls the plug, the parents can sue for wrongful death.

You want to be 'pro-choice'; well the parents are choosing for the child to live. Let's go to Nazi Germany where several non-Aryan parents had no choice whether their children live or die.
What the fuck does Nazi Germany have to do with this case. Oh, that's right...nothing.
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Old 04-27-2007, 07:10 PM   #22
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What the fuck does Nazi Germany have to do with this case. Oh, that's right...nothing.
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Old 04-27-2007, 07:24 PM   #23
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Screw Godwin.
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You want to be 'pro-choice'; well the parents are choosing for the child to live.
The parents are perfectly welcome to take the kid out of the hospital and to a nursing home, private care facility, or home with them. That way the hospital and Doctors can get on with the business of helping people and stop wasting time and resources on a vegetable.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:24 PM   #24
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Screw Godwin. The parents are perfectly welcome to take the kid out of the hospital and to a nursing home, private care facility, or home with them. That way the hospital and Doctors can get on with the business of helping people and stop wasting time and resources on a vegetable.
Someone please give this dude a trophy.
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:21 AM   #25
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In the Schiavo case, it was easy to see where the situation should fall, legally.
You're kidding, right? Congress and the State of Florida both tried to intervene, so it wasn't easy for a lot of people who should have known better.
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:36 AM   #26
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Screw Godwin. The parents are perfectly welcome to take the kid out of the hospital and to a nursing home, private care facility, or home with them.
Which is what happened in the original case (for different reasons): Karen Ann Quinlan and a resulting hospice program .
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Old 04-28-2007, 02:11 PM   #27
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You're kidding, right? Congress and the State of Florida both tried to intervene, so it wasn't easy for a lot of people who should have known better.
It was easy for people without a political agenda.
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