Burn A Koran Day

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by classicman

It amazes me the stupidity of the press to cover this piss-ant (sp?) preacher and his church with 50 friggin people. Why the hell are they giving him the world stage. Who benefits?

It's journalism. They post stories that will rouse emotion so people will keep reading their newspaper or watch their TV show. It obviously has worked, haha.

But just have a counter protest like the many against the Phelps family. Just burn something completely ridiculous next door and no one will cover the Quran book burning.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

When you make that connection, you feed into the hate that creates backlash.

You made that connection, not I.

And by promoting that ignorance and blaming the religion, you becomes part of the problem and not the solution.

You are the problem when you twist what others say, misconstrue their meaning and create tangents that didn't exist.

Originally Posted by Redux

IF you feel so strongly about blaming Islam
why not blame Christianity for the extreme ...

Repeat...when I promote ignorance (Islam is a terrorist religion), I am the problem, not part of the solution.

I did not, nor do I blame Islam, just the extremists. Whatever their race, religion or ideology does not matter. It is you who continue to create this false argument that others are blaming islam, not I.
You are so extreme in YOUR views that you continue to perpetuate this completely incorrect argument.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

It's IRRESPONSIBLE journalism.

fixed that for you

Originally Posted by classicman

You made that connection, not I.

You are the problem when you twist what others say, misconstrue their meaning and create tangents that didn't exist.

I did not, nor do I blame Islam, just the extremists. Whatever their race, religion or ideology does not matter. It is you who continue to create this false argument that others are blaming islam, not I.
You are so extreme in YOUR views that you continue to perpetuate this completely incorrect argument.

Same old bullshit from you too, dude.

The issue for me is bigger than some bigoted minister. It is the growing backlash against Muslims in America....from this preacher, from Beck and Limbaugh, from Chirstohpher Hitchins and from innuendos like yours.

And that backlash is fueled by ignorant associations of the actions of few with an entire religion.

Thats my opinion an d i dont give a fuck if you like it not.

[monster]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Koran, shit, you reckon he actually read the Bible?

I think I'm with Glatt. Free speech is an important thing, even if some dick has too be a total dick about it. Best thing is to ignore them, but it is too late for that, so a widespread public condemnation of the act is the next best thing.

I totally agree. Mostly i'm just going to ignore it. But yes, this sort of behaviour is darn irritating. Like cyclists who demand road rights and then sail through red lights.

[Undertoad]

What needs to happen is that moderate Christians need to denounce the event as distinctly un-Christian.

That is after all what a lot of people asked the Muslims to do.

And it's easy, I mean, I could do it directly from the teachings of Christ, and I'm an anti-theist.

[Lamplighter]

I'm somehow very proud of all the above comments by Dwellars

This AM on TV one of the reporters said the preacher was being pressured to cancel and was saying they would go ahead with the "event". The reporter then said the preacher had left some wiggle room by saying that he would cancel if "his God spoke to him"

What would he do if it was Allah that spoke ?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

I'm somehow very proud of all the above comments by Dwellars

This AM on TV one of the reporters said the preacher was being pressured to cancel and was saying they would go ahead with the "event". The reporter then said the preacher had left some wiggle room by saying that he would cancel if "his God spoke to him"

What would he do if it was Allah that spoke ?

I really don't trust the guy. He basically has a congregation of 50 people and now has the whole world looking at him for his greatest 15 min of fame, all fueled by the press coverage.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

That is after all what a lot of people asked the Muslims to do.

Something they have generally failed to do in a big way.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Something they have generally failed to do in a big way.

First cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Originally Posted by Jesus via Matthew, bold mine

5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

First cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

My point is that moderate muslims have failed to speak up about the years of violence. I am not a fan of polls but some of the ones taken after the bus bombings in the UK were quite interesting. In this country I see a huge outcry against this idiot from many Christian groups, his own kind.

Burn a Koran....vandalize Mosques across the country.....denounce Islam as a cult...publish/promote nonsense of a coming Caliphate that is dangerous to America.....hold Muslim's right to free expression of their religion to a higher standard than others as a result of fear promulgated by haters.

Small degrees of separation that feed off of each other.

Hate is hate.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

Burn a Koran....vandalize Mosques across the country.....denounce Islam as a cult...publish/promote nonsense of a coming Caliphate that is dangerous to America.....hold Muslim's right to free expression of their religion to a higher standard than others as a result of fear promulgated by haters.

You forgot a few - flying planes into the buildings, murder, bombing, kidnapping, rape, stoning, terrorism...

Small degrees of separation that feed off of each other.

Hate is hate.

yup.

Originally Posted by classicman

You forgot a few - flying planes into the buildings, murder, bombing, kidnapping, rape, stoning, terrorism...

yup.

That is exactly the point.

When you make that connection, by blaming a religion for the actions of those few (among 1+ billion) who debase the religion for their own political/ideological purposes, you feed into the hate that creates backlash.

And by promoting that ignorance and blaming the religion , you becomes part of the problem and not the solution.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Redux

Burn a Koran....vandalize Mosques across the country.....denounce Islam as a cult...publish/promote nonsense of a coming Caliphate that is dangerous to America.....hold Muslim's right to free expression of their religion to a higher standard than others as a result of fear promulgated by haters.

Small degrees of separation that feed off of each other.

Hate is hate.

I liked this.

[monster]

I'm chickening out of the clone thread: Burn a Korean Day