No health benefits from breast-feeding

[Lamplighter]

Good arguments for paid 3-month maternity leaves and for "Take your baby to work" programs.

Years ago, the science was that the antibodies from the Mom passed to the Baby were only in the colostrum (first milk), so unless the science has changed, I don't see the argument for preventing infections, etc. out to 6 months.

I do think there are psychological benefits of keeping the Mom and Baby together, but sometimes the emotional arguments for breast-feeding sometimes seem to go overboard. e.g., preventing cancer

[Pico and ME]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

....The Penis Enlarger was completely a product of my vivid imagination. ....

Oh...give it time. And Viagra will make it on the list, too.

[monster]

Originally Posted by glatt

boob cancer vs knob cancer (paraphrase mine)

but remember, we only care about the boobies.

Srsly, i don't have a problem with it. If a doctor will sign off on it as a health benefit, it should be included. Of course there will be crooked doctors who will help people screw the system. but this already happens. Why make nursing working mothers they people who have to pay for that?

[monster]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Good arguments for paid 3-month maternity leaves and for "Take your baby to work" programs.

Years ago, the science was that the antibodies from the Mom passed to the Baby were only in the colostrum (first milk), so unless the science has changed, I don't see the argument for preventing infections, etc. out to 6 months.

I do think there are psychological benefits of keeping the Mom and Baby together, but sometimes the emotional arguments for breast-feeding sometimes seem to go overboard. e.g., preventing cancer

yup, your science is a little out of date.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by monster

If a doctor will sign off on it as a health benefit, it should be included.

And I think that's the bottom line. I would agree wholeheartedly with that. Whatever "it" is.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Oh...give it time. And Viagra will make it on the list, too.

It probably is covered under "drugs" but at least in this case, unlike most medical insurance, it does not then exclude birth control. [/end serious part]

[begin sarcastical part] Hey, a guy needs to get his rocks off. It's healthier for society, so they don't go on rampages and stuff (you don't believe that, do you guys? That you're such animals? Yeah, i don't either.)

Anyhoo, it's only about the pumps. I think women could do without them, as a medical supply. Just squeeze boobehs really hard into a large bowl then, using a funnel, transfer milk to an old water bottle. If you can't afford a funnel you can use a SNANK bag. Water bottles can be found in your nearby landfill.

[monster]

Originally Posted by glatt

And I think that's the bottom line. I would agree wholeheartedly with that. Whatever "it" is.

right. I seriously doubt many doctors would refuse to sign off on a breast pump regardless of whether the health reasons were dietary or otherwise or the benefits for mother or baby or both. Unfortunately, this is a sensible solution.

[Pico and ME]

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

Good arguments for [b]paid[/B....sometimes the emotional arguments for breast-feeding sometimes seem to go overboard. e.g., preventing cancer

Oh Please. Emotional?? Thats underhanded.

READ THIS:

It is estimated that the cumulative
incidence of breast cancer in developed countries would be reduced by more than half, from 6.3 to 2.7 per 100 women by age 70, if women had the average number of births and lifetime duration of breastfeeding that had been prevalent in developing countries until recently. Breastfeeding could account for almost two-thirds of this estimated reduction in breast cancer incidence. The longer women breast feed the more they are protected against breast cancer. The lack of or short lifetime
duration of breastfeeding typical of women in developed countries makes a major contribution to the high incidence of breast cancer in these countries. Beral V et al. “Breast cancer and breastfeeding: collaborative reanalysis of individual data from 47 epidemiological studies in 30 countries, including 50 302 women with breast cancer and 96 973 women without the disease.” Lancet, Jul 20 2002; 360 (9328): 187-195

Women who breastfed a child for more than 24 months had a 54% reduced risk of developing breast cancer compared with women who breastfed for no more than 6 months. Women who breastfed for at least 73 months over the course of their lives had a much lower risk of breast cancer. The investigators found that the protective effect of breastfeeding applied to a woman's
risk of developing breast cancer both before and after menopause.

[monster]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Just squeeze boobehs really hard

If only it were that simple. For most women it isn't. I got lucky, 'cause that breastpumping thing aint a whole wheelbarrow load of joy in my experience.

Maybe doctors should only sign off on things that hurt a whole shitload. 'Cause then we know they're good for you....?

[monster]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Oh Please. Emotional?? Thats underhanded.

No, just outdated. But he admitted that himself.

[Pico and ME]

Monster, he used 'emotional' deliberately because it is associated with women, or maybe its just ingrained in him...he is from an older generation. Go ahead and give him a pass if you want, but it was a stupid word to choose.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by monster

If only it were that simple. For most women it isn't. I got lucky, 'cause that breastpumping thing aint a whole wheelbarrow load of joy in my experience.

Maybe doctors should only sign off on things that hurt a whole shitload. 'Cause then we know they're good for you....?

Oh, I couldn't even imagine. I bet it really does hurt.

Ultrasounds are better detectors of breast cancer than mammograms and hurt a lot less, but you know...women can handle anything. Oh, and an ultrasound is more expensive. Soon women will go back to pushing out a baby in their family's backyard and, after a five minute rest period, get back to beating clothes against the rocks in the creek.

[monster]

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Monster, he used 'emotional' deliberately because it is associated with women, or maybe its just ingrained in him...he is from an older generation. Go ahead and give him a pass if you want, but it was a stupid word to choose.

oh no pass from me, being out of date is not an excuse, I was just rubbing it in And thanks for finding a link -I was too lazy/busy trying to find out the latest about the bank robbery.....

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by glatt

I agree. This gets into the same idea as Clodfobble's posts to create incentives for healthy food. Blueberries should be cheap, and ramen noodles should be expensive.

One size doesn't fit all. I can't eat blueberries. I'd end up in the hospital. But I can eat ramen, if I sift out the green flakey stuff. You're going to penalize me for having Crohn's?

The world is a complex place.

[Pico and ME]

Maybe if you had been breastfed, you wouldn't have Crohn's now.

j/k

(sort of)