Jobs used as bargaining chip

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Class warfare is what that top 1% has been engaged in for the last few decades. Just because they don't use the 'C' word, doesn't make what they've been doing class neutral.

Yea, we call that a free market economy. What do you call it? What system would you propose?

[bluecuracao]

You are such a bitch, Merc. Are you trying to make someone say, "socialism?"

What you imagine to be a "free market economy" is destroying this economy. There won't be a "free market" anything if large corporations and obscenely big earners don't stop sitting on their stockpiles of cash and start putting it into play.

[TheMercenary]

Life is a bitch, not me.

Here is a good summary of Obama's many fails...

Conservatives vs. the Keynesian Purists

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/...n_purists.html

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Yea, we call that a free market economy. What do you call it? What system would you propose?

One in which the gulf between the wealthy and the rest isn't widening practically by the hour. One in which big business and the financial sector aren't bailed out constantly and aren't allowed absolute free reign to act in ways contrary to the public good. One in which an economic and political elite isn't allowed to create an effective monopoly on wealth and capital.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by DanaC

One in which the gulf between the wealthy and the rest isn't widening practically by the hour. One in which big business and the financial sector aren't bailed out constantly and aren't allowed absolute free reign to act in ways contrary to the public good. One in which an economic and political elite isn't allowed to create an effective monopoly on wealth and capital.

[Trilby]

but...but Dana- what you fail to see is that merc imagines himself as one of the economic and political elite. He is one of the top 1%! at least in his own mind - so why on earth would he want things to become more equal? He fancies himself wealthy! He's a yacht club member (albeit without the yacht...) and he does his master's bidding...(they let him polish their big boats and carry their cocktails )

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Brianna

but...but Dana- what you fail to see is that merc imagines himself as one of the economic and political elite. He is one of the top 1%! at least in his own mind - so why on earth would he want things to become more equal? He fancies himself wealthy! He's a yacht club member (albeit without the yacht...) and he does his master's bidding...(they let him polish their big boats and carry their cocktails )

It's gratifying to know that we, the taxpayers, paid him, setting up the rise to his lofty position.

[Spexxvet]

I wonder if he gets a military pension, funded by us.

[Griff]

If I understand his bio, he is recently, mostly, off the teat, after having his education, housing, health care etc... all paid for by us. It doesn't count though, because he suckled on the defense teat not one of the other nipples.

[classicman]

Think of him what you will, but he put his life on the line repeatedly for you to be able to come here and complain about him.

I don't agree with him all the time either, but the man deserves your respect for his service to his country.
Some of you seem to have forgotten that.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

he EARNED a military pension, funded by us.

ftfy

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by classicman

Think of him what you will, but he put his life on the line repeatedly for you to be able to come here and complain about him.

I don't agree with him all the time either, but the man deserves your respect for his service to his country.
Some of you seem to have forgotten that.

He does not deserve, nor does he have, my respect.

Criminals "served" their country, too, as soldiers. Generalizations don't work. Just because you signed up and wore a uni doesn't automatically grant you status in my eyes. Even Napoleon 'served' his country.

[DanaC]

I don't think military service in and of itself means someone is worthy of respect. That said, I also don't think veteran benefits can be in any way compared to wider benefits for citizens. Veteran benefits are there to recognise and reward (and act as an incentive) for those who sacrificed their individual freedom temporarily and in some cases their lives, in service to their country.

The notion that he did all that in order for us to be able to have this discussion is a moot point. I'm really not at all certain that fighting most American soldiers (and British for that matter) have engaged in for the past half century had anything to do with American freedom.

Merc, like any other soldier absolutely earned the right to veteran benefits.

What is sad is that raising the next generation of Americans, often at the exoense of personal career fulfilment, or caring for elderly relatives (the nation's elderly) is not counted as service to the nation, regardless of sacrifice, personal or otherwise.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by classicman

Think of him what you will, but he put his life on the line repeatedly for you to be able to come here and complain about him.

9/11 was long enough ago that we no longer have to pretend that is true. Our over-size military is more a threat to our way of life than any petty tyrant overseas. We damage our people by brain-washing them to believe false ideologies and then bring them back to civilian life with a skewed vision of reality and too often mental disorders from the violence that leaves a swath of damaged families that the unnecessary folks like teachers, health care workers, and social workers have to clean up after. The real founding fathers believe a standing army to be a threat to liberty. They were correct. rant off

[Trilby]

merc is, in my eyes, A Klansman who is OK with forwarding the agenda of BernieM. ---and if Merc was smart he'd know he was backing a Jew...but ;he's not that smart.