The Meaning of Christmas - Page 2

infinite monkey · 12-22-2011, 02:18 PM

Yes, and he underestimates our capability to feel the love that christmas is supposed to represent. We don't have to believe in santa or jesus to understand the heart of humanity.

DanaC · 12-22-2011, 02:21 PM

Jesus = Santa and his elves

That's what I'm taking away from this.

classicman · 12-22-2011, 02:40 PM

But Santa doesn't look like Jesus and who exactly are the elves again?
Is it Moses and Joshua and and and??? Inquiring minds NEED to know.

HungLikeJesus · 12-22-2011, 02:50 PM

Imagine Jesus got older and put on some weight.

JBKlyde · 12-22-2011, 02:52 PM

Quote:

So you're saying that Jesus is just Santa for adults?

NO... Santa Is Jesus for Children.

DanaC · 12-22-2011, 03:27 PM

Santa is a SFW Jesus?

JBKlyde · 12-22-2011, 03:35 PM

What is "SFW"??

BigV · 12-22-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde

What is the meaning of Christmas? Admiral Nichols White Beard who over sees the North Atlantic Polar Regions is quoted as Saying. That Christ Must Prevail. Dose it really make sense to lie to children about Santa and Elves just for the sake of presents and holiday Cheer.

What is the meaning of Christmas? There are many meanings, as recent discussions in other places have taught, context matters. Everyone here, you and I included, have some meaning associated with Christmas. We probably have multiple meanings, multiple associations, some current, some discarded.

For me, Christmas has a lot of different meanings. When I was a child, it was about the presents, and a marker for a LOOOONNNNG year. Gosh, Christmas will NEVER get here, I moaned at Halloween. Needless to say, this is not what Christmas means to me anymore. Partly because October to December isn't such a big slice of my lifetime anymore, and partly because Christmas practically butts up against Halloween anyhow. The presents are still part of the meaning of Christmas, but I'm a net giver now in contrast to my net receiver status as a child. More change.

The spiritual and religious perspectives I've held throughout my life have changed, naturally those elements of the meaning of Christmas have also changed. Like Griff, I no longer have a religious experience of Christmas, though many around me do, and I share their Christmas holiday respectfully.

Context, that's what provides the meaning of Christmas.

sexobon · 12-22-2011, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC

Jesus = Santa and his elves

That's what I'm taking away from this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBKlyde

NO... Santa Is Jesus for Children.

Santa is Jesus for Children as Jesus is God for adults, a medium of understanding for their level of comprehension. The parents who let their children believe in Santa are just following the example laid down by their heavenly Father who let them believe in Jesus. JBKlyde poo poos Santa because he doesn't like it when God works in ways that he doesn't understand (i.e. mysterious ways). People like that are known as Faux Christians.

JBKlyde · 12-23-2011, 11:11 AM

you just had to find a reason to try an make a fool out of me didn't you..

JBKlyde · 12-23-2011, 08:23 PM

this is what Christmas means to me..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbdvo019mgM

BigV · 12-23-2011, 10:47 PM

Merry Christmas JBKlyde!

JBKlyde · 12-24-2011, 11:35 AM

Merry Christmas to you to Big V

infinite monkey · 12-24-2011, 11:45 AM

JBK, I meant to say this earlier but I was wallowing in self-pity:

Merry Christmas, whatever it means to you. You have to know that we're jokesters, but it is nothing personal towards you.

I don't always understand, but I'm glad you're here and posting.

So have a wonderful holiday, OK?

HungLikeJesus · 12-24-2011, 11:59 AM

We have a mouse that I need to take for a ride. Since it's Xmas Eve and 10 degrees and there's still two feet of snow on the ground I decided he can stay in the house for a while.

I just gave him a piece of a Xmas cookie.

12-22-2011, 02:40 PM	#18
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	But Santa doesn't look like Jesus and who exactly are the elves again? Is it Moses and Joshua and and and??? Inquiring minds NEED to know. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

12-22-2011, 02:50 PM	#19
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	Imagine Jesus got older and put on some weight. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

12-23-2011, 10:47 PM	#27
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Merry Christmas JBKlyde! __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

12-24-2011, 11:59 AM	#30
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	We have a mouse that I need to take for a ride. Since it's Xmas Eve and 10 degrees and there's still two feet of snow on the ground I decided he can stay in the house for a while. I just gave him a piece of a Xmas cookie. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

12-22-2011, 02:18 PM	#16
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Yes, and he underestimates our capability to feel the love that christmas is supposed to represent. We don't have to believe in santa or jesus to understand the heart of humanity.

12-22-2011, 03:35 PM	#22
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	What is "SFW"??

12-23-2011, 11:11 AM	#25
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	you just had to find a reason to try an make a fool out of me didn't you..

12-23-2011, 08:23 PM	#26
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	this is what Christmas means to me.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbdvo019mgM

12-24-2011, 11:35 AM	#28
JBKlyde Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Encrypted Into an AmpitheaterWall Posts: 1,722	Merry Christmas to you to Big V

12-24-2011, 11:45 AM	#29
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	JBK, I meant to say this earlier but I was wallowing in self-pity: Merry Christmas, whatever it means to you. You have to know that we're jokesters, but it is nothing personal towards you. I don't always understand, but I'm glad you're here and posting. So have a wonderful holiday, OK?

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