The utterly pointless Clint Eastwood Thread

[Undertoad]

I think part of what lj is referring to is the tiresome interjection of Christ into every last topic, even if it requires a tire iron to get it there. We've all seen and been annoyed by those types and it doesn't have to be Christianity. I'm sure I've been one over Libertarianism in the past.

[Elspode]

I think I'll start professing my Pagan values with every thread. That ought to be fun. Let's go see what trouble I can stir up!

Pagan proselytization...what a great idea! After all, everyone loves it when the Mormons and the Witnesses come knocking on their doors. I'm gonna need a magazine or something...

[dar512]

Originally Posted by Elspode

I think I'll start professing my Pagan values with every thread. That ought to be fun. Let's go see what trouble I can stir up!

Pagan proselytization...what a great idea! After all, everyone loves it when the Mormons and the Witnesses come knocking on their doors. I'm gonna need a magazine or something...

Did I miss something. Is someone fragging the Cellar with Christian verbiage?

[dar512]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I think part of what lj is referring to is the tiresome interjection of Christ into every last topic, even if it requires a tire iron to get it there. We've all seen and been annoyed by those types and it doesn't have to be Christianity. I'm sure I've been one over Libertarianism in the past.

I agree. Even someone going on and on about their hobbies can get tiring. But again, that wasn't the case here. If you go to a Nintendo site, don't be surprised to see a lot of text about Nintendo games.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by dar512

I agree. Even someone going on and on about their hobbies can get tiring. But again, that wasn't the case here. If you go to a Nintendo site, don't be surprised to see a lot of text about Nintendo games.

why are you being such a dick?

i already said that i didn't realize that it was a christian site. and after looking a third time, i still can discerne no obvious mention of their pro christian viewpoint. And I still think he sounds like a cunt. cunt cunt cunt.

Originally Posted by darMcBitchysnatch512

"The greatest of all weaknesses is the fear of appearing weak."
-- J. B. Bossuet

so. you are intimating that i fear to appear weak? And by quoting some obscure putz, attempting to sound superior at the same time? Well, I certainly don't feel weak. or afraid of fearing to be seen as weak.

In your real life, David, are you prone to taking things that are plainly meant in jest and lamely trying to condescend to the perpetrator by taking it seriously and reacting as though they are classless buffoons that meant it literally? just curious. Had you any clue, you'd understand that while I routinely appear to be a hammer, I am actually very wise and genial. It seems that you need literal explanations from people. you know me. don't pretend that you don't.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

.. I am actually very wise and genial...

Hee hee. You almost said genital.

[dar512]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

why are you being such a dick?

It comes over me from time to time. I am under treatment and the doctors are hopeful.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

so. you are intimating that i fear to appear weak? And by quoting some obscure putz, attempting to sound superior at the same time? Well, I certainly don't feel weak. or afraid of fearing to be seen as weak.

I thought the obscure putz made the point more succinctly than I could. I felt like your "not" was a way of not having to admit that you goofed. It's like when people give backhanded compliments -- "You look great today ... for your age." Sure, the second part is humorous. But it completely dismisses the first part. Once the second part is given, the first part is no longer a compliment.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

In your real life, David, are you prone to taking things that are plainly meant in jest and lamely trying to condescend to the perpetrator by taking it seriously and reacting as though they are classless buffoons that meant it literally? just curious. Had you any clue, you'd understand that while I routinely appear to be a hammer, I am actually very wise and genial. It seems that you need literal explanations from people. you know me. don't pretend that you don't.

Um, let's see. There's a lot in there.

While I like to have fun and I'm widely known as a nice guy, it is true that I'm generally of a more serious nature.

I don't think you are a classless buffoon. I like and respect you, but you do have side to you that surprises me from time to time. It doesn't seem to go with the rest of you.

[Pete Zicato]

New evidence shows that Chuck Norris needs to ease up on the holy water.
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[fertilegypsy]

Play Misty for Me. (Utterly pointless AND Clint Eastward).

[Flint]

Why are some Christians so consistently confused about whether those outside of their faith will be swayed by rationalizations that require the listener to share their beliefs, or, sometimes even recite Bible verses ad nauseum (to a non-Christian)? It's pretty clear that somebody outside of that belief system doesn't put the same weight behind those words, therefore they aren't a good way to convince that person.

[mrnoodle]

I can't convince anyone to accept Christ. All I'm doing is clarifying, to the best of my limited ability, what someone who believes in Christ actually believes, and not allow us to continue to be defined by people who don't know what they're talking about. I use the bible to illustrate it so that you know that it isn't coming from my own head. Sorry that makes you uncomfortable, but it's how I roll, baby. [gang sign]

[Flint]

Okay, I see what you mean.

It's just that, you do realize that somebody who doesn't "believe in the Bible" isn't going to accept the Bible as a valid reference source, right? If you're not trying to convince them of anything, that's not an issue, I guess. But...aren't you supposed to be recruiting souls for the Lord?

[Flint]

lumberjim is a genital

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by mrnoodle

This is my opinion, and not anything to do with God: you are desperately afraid of appearing less than totally perfect in your own life, and the fact that Christians are supposed to have the attitude of servants makes you nauseous. Chuck Norris worshipping God as his superior is the embodiment of weakness to you. He never mentioned organized religion once. Yet as your argument supporting "chuck norris is a cunt", you put the blame on organized religion. I call BS. I remember when you used to be questioning about faith, and were searching with an open mind (or appeared to be). Sounds like something scared you off, and all you have left is anger about it. Again, my opinion, and potentially wrong.

I have no anger about it. My calling chuck a cunt was intended to be funny. my sticking to it, intended to be even funnier. Fuck Chuck. i could care less if he is mr god-boy.

I have always questioned faith, and still do. I still search with an open mind. I continually refine my beliefs, but i don;t see myself having an epiphany one day and being re-born. I think that it is a bogus concept. If i 'sin', then i have to live with it. i have to own the responsibility for my actions. I can;t rely on forgiveness of some imagined diety*.

Not an idol, the most high God. If you can't feel inferior to your creator without developing a complex, your ego is a bit inflated.

If you believe literally that he is your creator, and created the heaven and earth, i agree. But why must you constantly remind yourself of it? why worship Him? To whose benefit is it? Yours? His?

When someone mentions Christ, it's because they want to share his truth, not lord it over someone because they're so morally superior.

funny. expressions come to be for a reason, usually. Lord it over. ironic in that context.

What you want is for people to hold their faith in Christ in as low esteem as possible, so as not to insinuate that Christ is lord. If we did that, we would not worship God, but something of our own creation. The God of heaven and earth is not a tidbit to be chosen from a sampler plate of human-concocted deities, put on a little shelf somewhere, and only brought out when no one is going to be offended.

Is that what i want? really?

Sometimes i think that i have some respect for your faith because you stick to your guns and plainly believe that what you're saying is right. then you say some stupid shit like that. wtf? I want xtians to hold their faith in low esteem? i wish they'd be more respectful of it.

as far as the sampler plate goes.....god is not a buffet item? all or nothing? to me the 'God of Heaven and Earth' doesn't mean what it does to you.

I think it is important to state that there are many degrees of religious believers. I have varying degrees of respect for them. If you truly believe, and you live your life according to your religion, and it is a religion that does not require you to infringe on the reality of those around you, then i actually admire you. maybe i would have admired jesus, had i known him. I probably would have detested John the Baptist.


(*And no matter how many books have been written, God is an imagined diety. You may believe in God with your very core, so to you he is absolutely real. My hunger may be very real to me, but you can't feel it, so it is unreal to you. even though you have experienced the same sensation.)

I understand your impression that i feel anger toward christianity, noodle. maybe it is a form of anger, but i see it as more a sense of.....resistance to assimilation? in america, we are hammered with christian values from every angle throughout our childhood. there is an underlying current of assumption that if you are american, and not actively involved in some other religion, that you must be christian. if youre not, your non religiousness is seen by the differences from christianity. it's the home team's religion.

[mrnoodle]

Well, at any rate, we should know by now where the other is coming from. Took 3 pages, but I'm there, personally.